From: Tyler Pomerhn (tpomerhn@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Feb 20 2001 - 18:37:01 GMT-3
That's cute. Sorry I didn't put "truth" in "quotes" but I "guess" I
"didn't" have "the" time. Or maybe I :) didn't :) put :) enough :)
smileys :) in :) for :) you. :)
I was joking about the truth part. I realize that some people still
think the test is as hard as ever, and they're entitled to their
opinion.
Although, when you talk about a person who knows several proctors
personally, and when another person publishes statistics that clearly
show a NON-linear progression in recent CCIE awardings, that would seem
to lay a decent foundation for the truth, if there is truth to be had on
this matter.
*sigh* what started out as a simple suggestion that the exam's gotten
easier (which it has - even with all the flames I've received, there's
yet to be a valid counterargument, IMHO) has blown out of control. Let's
get a grip, everyone, and move past this.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter [mailto:peter@web53.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:25 PM
> To: Tyler Pomerhn; Lawrence Dwyer, IP Infrastructure
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>
>
> Tyler,
>
> You need to figure out how not to confuse "truth" with your
> opinion. Is it
> now a standard axiom that the exam is easy? I have not seen
> that disclosed
> by Cisco. Could you please send me the link?
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tyler Pomerhn" <tpomerhn@cisco.com>
> To: "Lawrence Dwyer, IP Infrastructure" <dwyer@torrentnet.com>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:38 AM
> Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>
>
> > I would disagree with the generic "cisco@groupstudy.com"
> being the ONLY
> > list for "off topic" posts. Clearly, the CCIE discussion we
> were having
> > falls under the heading of "CCIE only" and not "Cisco in general."
> > Nobody going for their CCNP is interested in this thread.
> >
> > IMNSHO, if we're to get rid of this past discussion, then
> we should also
> > be required to get rid of all "LAB SWAP" messages. I guarantee those
> > piss me off way more than anyone is pissed about the truth
> of mine. With
> > every lab swap message, I see another reason not to complain for an
> > instant about the supposed "backlog situation."
> >
> > Also, in going over my inbox, there were over two dozen
> posts that were
> > off topic. I don't see complaints about the "CCIE Design"
> question or
> > others... why not? Is it just because I'm taking an
> "unpopular" stance?
> >
> > tp
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lawrence Dwyer, IP Infrastructure
> [mailto:dwyer@torrentnet.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:38 AM
> > > To: Tyler Pomerhn; Hardin Les - SMTP; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually Tyler, I would disagree, this list was intentionally
> > > setup for only
> > > for people having passed the written to prepare for the
> > > technical details of
> > > the Lab. The "nonsense" you mention is supposed to be the
> > > only traffic on
> > > this list, with maybe an exception for lab dates. The generic list
> > > (cisco@groupstudy.com) is for the certification related
> > > topics, this is now
> > > called the professional/technical list. The purpose of the
> > > lists is really
> > > up to Paul.
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > Tyler Pomerhn wrote:
> > >
> > > > There's a VERY easy way to not be bothered by these
> > > emails... create a
> > > > filter. The subject clearly says "Off Topic."
> > > >
> > > > While this IS a list for lab study, it's also a list for Cisco
> > > > Certification-related topics. As the numerous responses
> to this list
> > > > attest, this is a topic of much interest to all concerned,
> > > and I find it
> > > > to be a refreshing debate in the chaos of "OSPF is keeping
> > > my ISDN line
> > > > up because I don't have ip ospf demand-circuit" configured"
> > > nonsense...
> > > >
> > > > tp
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > > > Hardin Les - SMTP
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:49 PM
> > > > To: Tyler Pomerhn; John A Field
> > > > Cc: Mark Lewis; brian@andyandbrian.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey folks,
> > > >
> > > > No disrespect intended as you all make good, mostly valid,
> > > > points, but I
> > > > think everyone interested in this subject should write Cisco (or
> > your
> > > > Congressperson), find a chat room, and go have a good group
> > > > chat. The rest
> > > > of us would like to discuss technical matters. Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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