RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)

From: Foster, Kristopher (KFoster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Feb 15 2001 - 19:18:37 GMT-3


   
ugh. I can't believe I'm taking part in this thread. I quickly grabbed some
numbers from the archives a threw a graph together. please stop this thread
when you see that the growth over the last year has been linear. the recent
level of 'i got my number' posts is because more people know of this list
and actively post that information. if you would like to discuss this i
will only respond off of this mailing list.

http://www.packetheads.org/cciestat.html

*do not reply to this on the mailing list, thanks*

Kris,

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Van Oene [mailto:pvo@usermail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:48 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)

Quick comment on the following below

Greg Posey mentioned the following:
>My reaction has been to plan for the bar being raised. At one time, having
>a High School diploma was considered an accomplishment. In the Engineering
>field, a B.S. was the mark of excellence - and the M.S. is quickly becoming
>the standard. In the IT field, how could we expect the trend to migrate
any
>slower? After (hopefully) passing the R/S CCIE this year, I realize I need
>to get a 2nd (or 3rd) CCIE if I really want to be in the upper-echelon.
I'm
>working harder, and studying more for this certification than I did in 6
>years of undergrad and grad Engineering - but I realize that at age 27, I'm
>far from the "I've done it, now I don't have to study anymore" status.

Although I agree with most of your sentiment, the concept that more CCIE
certs (ie becoming multiply certified) adds little additional value. In my
experience, the CCIE certification is a decent barometer of technical
competence, but somewhat wide in focus. For many employers, much of the
material tested in the R/S exam (which represents the lion's share of
CCIE's) is outside the scope of their requirements. Hence, a candidate will
attain some respect for having passed the test, but will be evaluated on
their relevant knowledge. With that in mind, having double the unrelated
knowledge seems to add very little to the candidates profile outside of
indicating that the individual spends a fair amount of their personal time
working on personal certifications.

Pete



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