Re: what is in it for the employer?

From: Andrew Short (ashort@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Jan 17 2001 - 14:58:53 GMT-3


   
Bottom line is this, there are 4 situations:

1. Your employer understands the value of having CCIE's, will
support your quest to attain that goal, and shower you with money and
position equivalent to your status once attained.

2. You can CONVINCE your ignorant employer of the tenets in #1, and they
respond to that.

3. Your employer understands the benefits but won't pay for them, either
because they simply don't need that level of expertise OR because they
expect everything for nothing. (I've been in BOTH situations!)

4. Your employer is ignorant and will not change.

3 & 4 you have to do soemthing about. 1&2 are great places to be. I am
fortunate enough to be with a company in the 1st category.

There's a fifth category where the company PRETENDS to be a #1, but you
get like, a 5k raise and then they pat THEMSELVES on the back for being
progressive. Group them in with #3.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Nodir Nazarov wrote:

>
> Hello, Bernard,
>
> Very familiar situation. My employer also has problems with comprehending
> the fact I am attempting for CCIE. They are coming with ridiculous
> commitment ideas if they sponsor ECP1 and couple of round trips. They see
> my future CCIE# as ez-pass to other companies. And of course no study time
> during work hours. I wonder how others deal with this sort of employers
> and what commitment you would consider as acceptable.
>
> I also joined this great group few days ago. Following rules of
> introduction - I work as a networking engineer for a network integration
> company which is also an ISP. Passed CCIE written Dec 27th. Gathered home
> lab consisting of 6 routers of different flavors. Lab is scheduled on
> Apr 22nd.
>
> Nodir
> MCSE, CCNP/CCDP
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Bernard Omrani wrote:
>
> > A non-technical question:
> > Is it true that Cisco customers who have a CCIE on their payroll are
> > entitled to an additional discount by Cisco?
> >
> > The reason that I am asking this is that my employer does not have any
> > motivation to help me through this endeavor and a friend told me about this
> > discount. They think: The more I invest in you, the more others will want
> > you.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Bernard
> >



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