From: Chuck Church (cchurch@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Sat Jan 13 2001 - 19:21:20 GMT-3
If it happened in college, that's ok. Perhaps even encouraged. If it
happened last week with a 2610 under your arm, that's just plain disturbing.
Unless of course, you're still in college :) Maybe we should drop this
bizarre thread before we find out too much about our fellow group
studiers...
Chuck Church
CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
Sr. Network Engineer
Magnacom Technologies
140 N. Rt. 303
Valley Cottage, NY 10989
845-267-4000 x218
-----Original Message-----
From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:ciscokid00@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 12:12 PM
To: cchurch@MAGNACOM.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: In defense of the lab...
Without going into detail, I will say that I HAVE done that (the pricker
bushes thing...). It was not intentional, but as circumstances unfolded, it
was an event that took place.
Looking back on it now, I can honestly say that day 1 of my first lab
attempt was not quite as bad. Not quite. Close, but no cigar...
Z
>From: Chuck Church <cchurch@MAGNACOM.com>
>Reply-To: Chuck Church <cchurch@MAGNACOM.com>
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: In defense of the lab...
>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 22:11:28 -0500
>
>Entertaining? Pleasureable? You can't be serious. I thought my first day
>today was about as pleasurable as running naked through a field of pricker
>bushes. Not that I've ever done that, it just happens to be the most
>unpleasurable thing I can think of right now.
>
>
>Chuck Church
>CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
>Sr. Network Engineer
>Magnacom Technologies
>140 N. Rt. 303
>Valley Cottage, NY 10989
>845-267-4000 x218
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Erick B. [mailto:erickbe@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:00 AM
>To: Padhu (LFG); 'Tony Olzak'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: In defense of the lab...
>
>
>
>I've been to the lab once and am going back soon. I
>found it an entertaining and pleasureable experience
>and wasn't stressed at all (Stress is for the birds!)
>and had time. I didn't make the best use of it
>(mistakes learned) but had a good strategy. I had some
>issues with my termserv which ate up some time. I
>think I would have made it if I was solid with LANE
>and a few other things. I'm also doing the CCIE for
>fun and am not going to kill my personal life or my
>bank account on a home lab to get a certification.
>
>The #1 lab strategy I recommend is to not touch any
>equipment until you have read through the binder(s) a
>few times when you get them, and have your network
>drawn on paper in as much detail as possible. If you
>have that the config will go a lot faster.
>
>Erick
>
>--- "Padhu (LFG)" <padhu@steinroe.com> wrote:
> > not a complaint but however i think they can do a
> > few things better ...
> >
> > Like a really nice big white sheet of paper , where
> > we can neatly draw out
> > and not worry
> > space for fitting all protocol and all other info
> > reqd ...
> >
> > a better pc with no sticky 1980 keyboards....
> >
> > CDROM drive that works at a "reasonable speed" ...
> > one rarely would use
> > ..however when u really wanna use its useless .
> >
> > We all know those 2 days are probably the worst
> > stress test in life ...the
> > last thing we
> > wanna get frustrated about is all those silly things
> > mentioned above ...
> >
> > cisco definetly has the money for fixing all the
> > above ..donno why they
> > aren't fixing it .
> >
> > Cheers,Padhu
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Olzak [mailto:aolzak@buckeye-express.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:32 PM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: In defense of the lab...
> >
> >
> > On both of my CCIE lab attempts, I've heard people
> > attack the format of =
> > the lab. They usually go like this:
> >
> > "I think the whole thing is a crock! No network
> > would ever be set up =
> > that way and you wouldn't have all those
> > restrictions. If I had enough =
> > time and didn't have the restrictions I could get
> > everything working."
> >
> > Yes, it's true that anyone, with enough time and no
> > restrictions, could =
> > get everything to work. However, this isn't called
> > the Cisco Certified =
> > PROFESSIONAL Lab--it's an EXPERT lab. That means you
> > can take a bunch of =
> > routers and make them do whatever is required, no
> > matter how many =
> > restrictions are placed upon you or how ugly the
> > situation gets.
> >
> > Anyone can get routers to work, only experts can
> > make them dance.
> >
> > Tony Olzak, CCIE #6689
>
>
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