IBM are looking to pull out of their SDN investment rumours are it's up for sale..what does that say? Prob not enough to make any judgements
Seen this debate so many times zzzzzzzzz
-- BR Tony > On 13 Mar 2014, at 14:06, "Abraham, Tharak" <tharakabraham_at_gmail.com> wrote: > > well, am not sure where you picked that from. > we were neither talking about an overnight change nor about buying/selling > a controller. > > By the way, can you show me someone who's not selling SDN solutions or > atleast don't have the plans to move over to SDN ;) ? > > > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Alexei Monastyrnyi <alexeim73_at_gmail.com>wrote: > >> because networks don't change overnight. The fact that someone started >> selling an SDN controller doesn't mean that all who runs networks would >> come running to the nearest outlet to buy it. :-) >> >> >>> On 13 March 2014 12:38, Abraham, Tharak <tharakabraham_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Well, I really meant it ;) >>> When we have these wonderful controllers out there to assign the labels >>> statically, why is LDP required ? >>> >>> Tharak. >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 4:51 PM, shiran guez <shiranp3_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> if there are networks that still run DECnet , IPX , RIP ... and other >>>> legacy protocol LDP will not going away so soon :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Abraham, Tharak < >>>> tharakabraham_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yea, right. >>>>> MPLS will stay but LDP is going away ;) >>>>> Tharak >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 4:24 PM, shiran guez <shiranp3_at_gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Guys SDN is inevitable evolution of networks however I would not be >>>>>> alarmed >>>>>> as networks with SDN would most likely going to need network eng to >>>>>> design >>>>>> build and operate. >>>>>> SDN will at least as defined today will not replace routing protocols >>>>>> (BGP/IGP) or transport technology such as MPLS, the SDN will be a more >>>>>> evolved and standard based solution for scripting such as we use today >>>>>> EEM >>>>>> or OP (juniper) in our router to identify events and react by either >>>>>> alerting or by actually modifying configuration. >>>>>> >>>>>> I do not think there is a medium or large and i will risk by saying >>>>>> even >>>>>> small networks that do not use some kind of automation in their >>>>>> network. >>>>>> SDN in standard form will allow central brain to observe and modify >>>>>> network >>>>>> behavior in according to a policy pre defined by people! >>>>>> so yes network eng will need to know more "software based" >>>>>> applications but >>>>>> what is BGP or ISIS if not software! >>>>>> >>>>>> So do not be afraid, embrace the evolution as it is already here and >>>>>> there >>>>>> is a lot to be done. >>>>>> >>>>>> I say that as long as people are inventing new things and it can >>>>>> anything >>>>>> not only Networking issue, people will always have something to handle >>>>>> / >>>>>> fix until it is beyond repair and they new things should be >>>>>> invented.... >>>>>> >>>>>> my 2.1 cents :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Alexei Monastyrnyi < >>>>>> alexeim73_at_gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Just my .02. >>>>>>> Gear up for SDN but do not get too excited. Many of us have used >>>>>> some sort >>>>>>> of scripting languages for automation, that should be enough to get >>>>>> by with >>>>>>> the first generation of SDN. Then the time will tell. SDN is not >>>>>> mature >>>>>>> enough to turn your world upside down even in 5 years. Get ready but >>>>>> fear >>>>>>> not. :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for IPv4, it is not going anywhere, all existing corporate >>>>>> networks are >>>>>>> going to run it for decades to come. So keep teezing your brain with >>>>>> binary >>>>>>> arithmetics, it is a good exercise, IPv4 or not. :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> A. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12 March 2014 21:15, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you have very important question . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for me it sounds like below .... >>>>>>>> world is going towards IPV6 , why should i learn ipv4 subnetting >>>>>> and ipv4 >>>>>>>> related things..i will start directly with ipv6 :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Ray <rtvrpk_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Experts, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wanted to know what is the future and growth moving to SDN. Will >>>>>>> Routing, >>>>>>>>> switching, mpls still be an important part for sdn and its >>>>>> solutions >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> this good to have on top of IP skills going forward. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good to have some suggestions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> //Phani >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Shiran Guez >>>>>> MCSE CCNP NCE1 JNCIA-ENT JNCIS-ENT JNCIP-ENT CCIE #20572 >>>>>> http://cciep3.blogspot.com >>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/cciep3 >>>>>> http://twitter.com/cciep3 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Shiran Guez >>>> MCSE CCNP NCE1 JNCIA-ENT JNCIS-ENT JNCIP-ENT CCIE #20572 >>>> http://cciep3.blogspot.com >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/cciep3 >>>> http://twitter.com/cciep3 > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.netReceived on Thu Mar 13 2014 - 23:13:45 ART
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