Re: OT: Moving to SDN

well, am not sure where you picked that from.
we were neither talking about an overnight change nor about buying/selling
a controller.

By the way, can you show me someone who's not selling SDN solutions or
atleast don't have the plans to move over to SDN ;) ?

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Alexei Monastyrnyi <alexeim73_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> because networks don't change overnight. The fact that someone started
> selling an SDN controller doesn't mean that all who runs networks would
> come running to the nearest outlet to buy it. :-)
>
>
> On 13 March 2014 12:38, Abraham, Tharak <tharakabraham_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, I really meant it ;)
>> When we have these wonderful controllers out there to assign the labels
>> statically, why is LDP required ?
>>
>> Tharak.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 4:51 PM, shiran guez <shiranp3_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> if there are networks that still run DECnet , IPX , RIP ... and other
>>> legacy protocol LDP will not going away so soon :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Abraham, Tharak <
>>> tharakabraham_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yea, right.
>>>> MPLS will stay but LDP is going away ;)
>>>> Tharak
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 4:24 PM, shiran guez <shiranp3_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Guys SDN is inevitable evolution of networks however I would not be
>>>>> alarmed
>>>>> as networks with SDN would most likely going to need network eng to
>>>>> design
>>>>> build and operate.
>>>>> SDN will at least as defined today will not replace routing protocols
>>>>> (BGP/IGP) or transport technology such as MPLS, the SDN will be a more
>>>>> evolved and standard based solution for scripting such as we use today
>>>>> EEM
>>>>> or OP (juniper) in our router to identify events and react by either
>>>>> alerting or by actually modifying configuration.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not think there is a medium or large and i will risk by saying
>>>>> even
>>>>> small networks that do not use some kind of automation in their
>>>>> network.
>>>>> SDN in standard form will allow central brain to observe and modify
>>>>> network
>>>>> behavior in according to a policy pre defined by people!
>>>>> so yes network eng will need to know more "software based"
>>>>> applications but
>>>>> what is BGP or ISIS if not software!
>>>>>
>>>>> So do not be afraid, embrace the evolution as it is already here and
>>>>> there
>>>>> is a lot to be done.
>>>>>
>>>>> I say that as long as people are inventing new things and it can
>>>>> anything
>>>>> not only Networking issue, people will always have something to handle
>>>>> /
>>>>> fix until it is beyond repair and they new things should be
>>>>> invented....
>>>>>
>>>>> my 2.1 cents :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Alexei Monastyrnyi <
>>>>> alexeim73_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Just my .02.
>>>>> > Gear up for SDN but do not get too excited. Many of us have used
>>>>> some sort
>>>>> > of scripting languages for automation, that should be enough to get
>>>>> by with
>>>>> > the first generation of SDN. Then the time will tell. SDN is not
>>>>> mature
>>>>> > enough to turn your world upside down even in 5 years. Get ready but
>>>>> fear
>>>>> > not. :-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > As for IPv4, it is not going anywhere, all existing corporate
>>>>> networks are
>>>>> > going to run it for decades to come. So keep teezing your brain with
>>>>> binary
>>>>> > arithmetics, it is a good exercise, IPv4 or not. :-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Cheers
>>>>> > A.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 12 March 2014 21:15, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > you have very important question .
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > for me it sounds like below ....
>>>>> > > world is going towards IPV6 , why should i learn ipv4 subnetting
>>>>> and ipv4
>>>>> > > related things..i will start directly with ipv6 :-)
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Ray <rtvrpk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > > Hi Experts,
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Wanted to know what is the future and growth moving to SDN. Will
>>>>> > Routing,
>>>>> > > > switching, mpls still be an important part for sdn and its
>>>>> solutions
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > > is
>>>>> > > > this good to have on top of IP skills going forward.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Good to have some suggestions.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > //Phani
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
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