Re: New R&S updates

My post from a week or so back may have sparked some of this animosity.
First off, v5 is coming but I would never use it as an excuse to stop
studying current blue print. There is no need to get overwhelmed, wait, or
quit pursuing... Fact is things change at very accelerated pace these days
and most likely any lab you sit today will struggle to be current. Just
because it isnt current doesnt mean it isnt relevant.

A few thoughts with respect to relevancy (which I think we will find
backlog of in the archives). I am ramping up for CCIE Data Center. There
have been some minor adjustments to the blueprint in what appears to be an
effort bringing topics more to date. Fact is that data center space is
changing more rapid than all othersThe industry (at least in the Bay Area)
has adopted clustered virtualization using L3 access, ECMP, and VxLAN to
bridge DC's but I dont see all these topics on the v1 Blue Print. Same
goes for storage where the adoption rate with mid market and startups is
much higher towards file storage compared to block. Big Data, No SQL, and
Hadoop environments gain popularity but no mention of how to optimize for
this through UCS/Nexus on the blue print. Automation stacks based on open
source distributions like Puppet also becoming more common. Network
programming is most alive in the Data Center space but, again, missing from
the CCIE DC blue print.CCIE is more about the perseverance of setting out
and completing a long and difficult journey. It is demonstrating mastery of
topics from a snapshot in time proving you have the capacity to conquer
both the topics of today and what is coming next.
Marc Edwards
CCIE #38259

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Ovais Iqbal <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

> I think anyone prepared for current CCIE version is more then prepared for
> v5. Even looking at the rumors we can easily conclude that v5 will be
> somewhat subset of v4.
>
> Regarding FR, its not that BIG topic. If someone follows INE or Narbik,
> he/she can nail it down in few days (depending on number of hours
ofcourse).
>
> Dont let these rumors hold you back. Keep labbing
>
> Ovais Iqbal
> CCIE (R/S)# 37956
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:07 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I totally agree with what Marko said.
>
> Kalpesh, it is NOT the frame-relay, it's the behavior of a routing protocol
> on a NBMA network and know how to deal with it, the behavior of NBMA
> network can be seen in many different forms/implementations in todays
> networks.
>
> How are you Jay?
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hmm. I mean this will all due respect, but to wait for an exam so that
> you
> > remove the need to learn a topology, is not a desired trait in the
> industry.
> >
> > While Frame may or may not be needed, it's not that difficult and minimal
> > that you would need to learn. In fact, I almost think you should learn
> it,
> > for the lab you will most definitely build for yourself after you pass.
> > Frame gives you the flexibility to cable your lab once and never touch it
> > again.
> >
> > In short, there isn't that much to frame. To learn OSPF over frame is
> > still needed to grasp all of the features of OSPF, but maybe MPF or
> PPPoFr
> > isn't as much needed. Also, like Marko already called out, there aren't
> > many "advancements" in R/S so your margin of new learning isn't that
> great.
> > Routing protocols and advanced services are enough to learn on in the
> > meantime.
> >
> > Happy labbing. ;)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jay McMickle- 2x CCIE #35355 (R/S,Sec)
> > Sent from my iPhone 5s
> >
> > > On Nov 17, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Kalpesh Chheda <kalpeshchheda_at_live.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I think we don't need to learn old technologies like frame relay.
> > > That's why I am eagerly waiting for v5
> > >
> > > Sent from my Windows Phone
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Marko Milivojevic<mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com>
> > > Sent: b 18/b 11/b 2013 02:45
> > > To: Rati Berikaant Jokhadze<mailto:iinfo83_at_gmail.com>
> > > Cc: GS CCIE<mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > > Subject: Re: New R&S updates
> > >
> > > I advise caution about the non-official information. Nothing has been
> > > announced yet, new blueprint is (and has been for more than 2 years) in
> > the
> > > works and will probably be announced sometime before this time next
> year.
> > > Other than that - keep on with your study :-)
> > >
> > > Nothing to be afraid of. How much have OSPF, EIGRP and BGP changed in
> the
> > > last 5 years? Learn the technologies and when the blueprint changes,
> > don't
> > > panic and just learn minor differences.
> > >
> > > There is REALLY absolutely NOTHING to worry about. Nothing.
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Rati Berikaant Jokhadze
> > > <iinfo83_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> people is afraid :-)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 11/17/2013 10:09 PM, Marko Milivojevic wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I have not seen any mention of it yet on the cisco site.
> > >>> Well, that should answer that question then, shouldn't it? :-)
> > >>>
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