Re: New R&S updates

I think anyone prepared for current CCIE version is more then prepared for v5. Even looking at the rumors we can easily conclude that v5 will be somewhat subset of v4.

Regarding FR, its not that BIG topic. If someone follows INE or Narbik, he/she can nail it down in few days (depending on number of hours ofcourse).

Dont let these rumors hold you back. Keep labbing

Ovais Iqbal
CCIE (R/S)# 37956

On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:07 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
 
I totally agree with what Marko said.

Kalpesh, it is NOT the frame-relay, it's the behavior of a routing protocol
on a NBMA network and know how to deal with it, the behavior of NBMA
network can be seen in many different forms/implementations in todays
networks.

How are you Jay?

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hmm. I mean this will all due respect, but to wait for an exam so that you
> remove the need to learn a topology, is not a desired trait in the industry.
>
> While Frame may or may not be needed, it's not that difficult and minimal
> that you would need to learn. In fact, I almost think you should learn it,
> for the lab you will most definitely build for yourself after you pass.
> Frame gives you the flexibility to cable your lab once and never touch it
> again.
>
> In short, there isn't that much to frame. To learn OSPF over frame is
> still needed to grasp all of the features of OSPF, but maybe MPF or PPPoFr
> isn't as much needed. Also, like Marko already called out, there aren't
> many "advancements" in R/S so your margin of new learning isn't that great.
> Routing protocols and advanced services are enough to learn on in the
> meantime.
>
> Happy labbing. ;)
>
> Regards,
> Jay McMickle- 2x CCIE #35355 (R/S,Sec)
> Sent from my iPhone 5s
>
> > On Nov 17, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Kalpesh Chheda <kalpeshchheda_at_live.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I think we don't need to learn old technologies like frame relay.
> > That's why I am eagerly waiting for v5
> >
> > Sent from my Windows Phone
> > ________________________________
> > From: Marko Milivojevic<mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com>
> > Sent: b 18/b 11/b 2013 02:45
> > To: Rati Berikaant Jokhadze<mailto:iinfo83_at_gmail.com>
> > Cc: GS CCIE<mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > Subject: Re: New R&S updates
> >
> > I advise caution about the non-official information. Nothing has been
> > announced yet, new blueprint is (and has been for more than 2 years) in
> the
> > works and will probably be announced sometime before this time next year.
> > Other than that - keep on with your study :-)
> >
> > Nothing to be afraid of. How much have OSPF, EIGRP and BGP changed in the
> > last 5 years? Learn the technologies and when the blueprint changes,
> don't
> > panic and just learn minor differences.
> >
> > There is REALLY absolutely NOTHING to worry about. Nothing.
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Rati Berikaant Jokhadze
> > <iinfo83_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> people is afraid :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 11/17/2013 10:09 PM, Marko Milivojevic wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have not seen any mention of it yet on the cisco site.
> >>> Well, that should answer that question then, shouldn't it? :-)
> >>>
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