Re: v5 Has Arrived

I had a brief jabber session with the listed CiscoLive! session speaker. I
wasn't able to glean much information nor any transition dates. If you are
deep into the v4 blue print or attended any v4 specific bootcamps, my
suggestion is to book an attempt. Only fair to get a shot or two in under
current foundation.

The blue print will obviously change (delivery might as well) but Cisco
documentation won't change much. Many of the concepts will continue to
exist... I have a hunch there will be additional scripting tasks based on
market trends... but that is just speculation. It is a tough test full of
mental MMA. Kicked my ass a bunch of times before passing but key was not
to give up. Where ever you might be in study, stay brilliant in the basics
and keep on keeping on.

Marc Edwards
CCIE #38259

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:

> No no no. We'd have a pleasant conversation as we always do when we meet
> :-).
>
> Then again, I have no idea how I ended-up in the "braintrust" list, but hey
> - thanks. I guess.
>
> --
> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
> Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Humphrey Cheung <not5150_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > All those guys locks in the same room? Can you imagine the carnage? I'd
> > give it 30 minutes max before they all try to kill each other :)
> >
> > "I think for version 5 they need to lock Narbik, the Brians, and Marko
> in a
> > room and feed them the question pool. Anything that brain trust can't
> solve
> > should be off the test.
> >
> > -Marc"
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:30 PM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes stupid router tricks are par for the course, but what rubbed me the
> > > wrong way from my attempts were the questions that I still can't figure
> > out
> > > after leaving the lab, with all the time in the world and access to the
> > > documentation.
> > >
> > > I think for version 5 they need to lock Narbik, the Brians, and Marko
> in
> > a
> > > room and feed them the question pool. Anything that brain trust can't
> > solve
> > > should be off the test.
> > >
> > > -Marc
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Imran,
> > > >
> > > > The "Stupid router tricks" or the "corner cases" are part of our day
> to
> > > day
> > > > design and engineering life, there are times that you have no choice
> > but
> > > to
> > > > do a "007" configuration to get certain requirement implemented,
> > without
> > > > spending more money. I am sure that you are aware of this.
> > > >
> > > > You twist the relevant technologies to accomplish something totally
> > > > different, which sets apart the CCNP from CCIE. Now, let's not make a
> > > > federal case out of this, some may like the new blueprint and some
> may
> > > not
> > > > like the new blueprint, but the newer blueprints *normally* improve
> the
> > > > older versions, look at the Security or the SP track, but let's wait
> > and
> > > > see what the new blueprint brings to the table.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > so narbik, no more stupid router tricks .... no more corner
> > case
> > > > > scenarios....only the real and relevant technologies
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Narbik Kocharians <
> > narbikk_at_gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I agree James, it does not matter what they have added or what
> they
> > > have
> > > > >> removed, if you know your stuff you will pass, and if you don't
> you
> > > will
> > > > >> not, it's as simple as that.
> > > > >> I am glad that Cisco removed some of the crappy (PFR, Frame-relay)
> > > stuff
> > > > >> and have moved toward what's real out there.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:40 AM, James Poplawski <
> > > > jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com
> > > > >> >wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Why are people hung up on 6mo notice? They own the program,
> they
> > > owe
> > > > >> > nothing to candidates.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Study hard and get the digits regardless of what version.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:38 AM, ccie99999 <ccie99999_at_gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Brian,
> > > > >> > > your post says v5 could go live on March '14. What about 6
> > months
> > > > >> notice
> > > > >> > if
> > > > >> > > they announce it in November '13 ?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > thanks.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Brian Dennis <
> bdennis_at_ine.com
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> We should see the announcement in November. Here is a blog
> > post
> > > > >> > >> concerning the version 5 update.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://blog.ine.com/2013/10/31/routing-and-switching-ccie-version-5-update/
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> --
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
> > > > >> > >> bdennis_at_ine.com
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> INE, Inc.
> > > > >> > >> http://www.INE.com
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>> On 10/31/13, 8:18 AM, "marc edwards" <renorider_at_gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>> Saw this off twitter feeds. I will try to find more
> > information
> > > > >> > internally
> > > > >> > >>> and provide to the group. If anyone has more information on
> > > > changes,
> > > > >> > >>> please
> > > > >> > >>> don't be shy!
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> >
> > > >
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> > > > >> > >>>
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> > > > >> > >>>
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