Re: v5 Has Arrived

No no no. We'd have a pleasant conversation as we always do when we meet
:-).

Then again, I have no idea how I ended-up in the "braintrust" list, but hey
- thanks. I guess.

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Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Humphrey Cheung <not5150_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> All those guys locks in the same room?  Can you imagine the carnage?  I'd
> give it 30 minutes max before they all try to kill each other :)
>
> "I think for version 5 they need to lock Narbik, the Brians, and Marko in a
> room and feed them the question pool. Anything that brain trust can't solve
> should be off the test.
>
> -Marc"
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:30 PM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes stupid router tricks are par for the course, but what rubbed me the
> > wrong way from my attempts were the questions that I still can't figure
> out
> > after leaving the lab, with all the time in the world and access to the
> > documentation.
> >
> > I think for version 5 they need to lock Narbik, the Brians, and Marko in
> a
> > room and feed them the question pool. Anything that brain trust can't
> solve
> > should be off the test.
> >
> > -Marc
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Imran,
> > >
> > > The "Stupid router tricks" or the "corner cases" are part of our day to
> > day
> > > design and engineering life, there are times that you have no choice
> but
> > to
> > > do a "007" configuration to get certain requirement implemented,
> without
> > > spending more money. I am sure that you are aware of this.
> > >
> > > You twist the relevant technologies to accomplish something totally
> > > different, which sets apart the CCNP from CCIE. Now, let's not make a
> > > federal case out of this, some may like the new blueprint and some may
> > not
> > > like the new blueprint, but the newer blueprints *normally* improve the
> > > older versions, look at the Security or the SP track, but let's wait
> and
> > > see what the new blueprint brings to the table.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > so  narbik,  no  more  stupid  router  tricks .... no more corner
> case
> > > > scenarios....only  the real  and  relevant  technologies
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Narbik Kocharians <
> narbikk_at_gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I agree James, it does not matter what they have added or what they
> > have
> > > >> removed, if you know your stuff you will pass, and if you don't you
> > will
> > > >> not, it's as simple as that.
> > > >> I am glad that Cisco removed some of the crappy (PFR, Frame-relay)
> > stuff
> > > >> and have moved toward what's real out there.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:40 AM, James Poplawski <
> > > jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com
> > > >> >wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Why are people hung up on 6mo notice?  They own the program, they
> > owe
> > > >> > nothing to candidates.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Study hard and get the digits regardless of what version.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:38 AM, ccie99999 <ccie99999_at_gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Brian,
> > > >> > > your post says v5 could go live on March '14. What about 6
> months
> > > >> notice
> > > >> > if
> > > >> > > they announce it in November '13 ?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > thanks.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> We should see the announcement in November.  Here is a blog
> post
> > > >> > >> concerning the version 5 update.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> http://blog.ine.com/2013/10/31/routing-and-switching-ccie-version-5-update/
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> --
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
> > > >> > >> bdennis_at_ine.com
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> INE, Inc.
> > > >> > >> http://www.INE.com
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>> On 10/31/13, 8:18 AM, "marc edwards" <renorider_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> Saw this off twitter feeds. I will try to find more
> information
> > > >> > internally
> > > >> > >>> and provide to the group. If anyone has more information on
> > > changes,
> > > >> > >>> please
> > > >> > >>> don't be shy!
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> >
> > >
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