Re: v5 Has Arrived

All those guys locks in the same room? Can you imagine the carnage? I'd
give it 30 minutes max before they all try to kill each other :)

"I think for version 5 they need to lock Narbik, the Brians, and Marko in a
room and feed them the question pool. Anything that brain trust can't solve
should be off the test.

-Marc"

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:30 PM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes stupid router tricks are par for the course, but what rubbed me the
> wrong way from my attempts were the questions that I still can't figure out
> after leaving the lab, with all the time in the world and access to the
> documentation.
>
> I think for version 5 they need to lock Narbik, the Brians, and Marko in a
> room and feed them the question pool. Anything that brain trust can't solve
> should be off the test.
>
> -Marc
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Imran,
> >
> > The "Stupid router tricks" or the "corner cases" are part of our day to
> day
> > design and engineering life, there are times that you have no choice but
> to
> > do a "007" configuration to get certain requirement implemented, without
> > spending more money. I am sure that you are aware of this.
> >
> > You twist the relevant technologies to accomplish something totally
> > different, which sets apart the CCNP from CCIE. Now, let's not make a
> > federal case out of this, some may like the new blueprint and some may
> not
> > like the new blueprint, but the newer blueprints *normally* improve the
> > older versions, look at the Security or the SP track, but let's wait and
> > see what the new blueprint brings to the table.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > so narbik, no more stupid router tricks .... no more corner case
> > > scenarios....only the real and relevant technologies
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> I agree James, it does not matter what they have added or what they
> have
> > >> removed, if you know your stuff you will pass, and if you don't you
> will
> > >> not, it's as simple as that.
> > >> I am glad that Cisco removed some of the crappy (PFR, Frame-relay)
> stuff
> > >> and have moved toward what's real out there.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:40 AM, James Poplawski <
> > jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com
> > >> >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Why are people hung up on 6mo notice? They own the program, they
> owe
> > >> > nothing to candidates.
> > >> >
> > >> > Study hard and get the digits regardless of what version.
> > >> >
> > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> > >> >
> > >> > > On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:38 AM, ccie99999 <ccie99999_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Brian,
> > >> > > your post says v5 could go live on March '14. What about 6 months
> > >> notice
> > >> > if
> > >> > > they announce it in November '13 ?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > thanks.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> We should see the announcement in November. Here is a blog post
> > >> > >> concerning the version 5 update.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> http://blog.ine.com/2013/10/31/routing-and-switching-ccie-version-5-update/
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> --
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
> > >> > >> bdennis_at_ine.com
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> INE, Inc.
> > >> > >> http://www.INE.com
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> On 10/31/13, 8:18 AM, "marc edwards" <renorider_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Saw this off twitter feeds. I will try to find more information
> > >> > internally
> > >> > >>> and provide to the group. If anyone has more information on
> > changes,
> > >> > >>> please
> > >> > >>> don't be shy!
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> >
> > https://www.ciscolivemilan.com/connect/sessionDetail.ww?SESSION_ID=3480
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Marc Edwards
> > >> > >>> CCIE #38259
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> *Narbik Kocharians
> > >> *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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> > >>
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