Re: v5 Has Arrived

Yes stupid router tricks are par for the course, but what rubbed me the
wrong way from my attempts were the questions that I still can't figure out
after leaving the lab, with all the time in the world and access to the
documentation.

I think for version 5 they need to lock Narbik, the Brians, and Marko in a
room and feed them the question pool. Anything that brain trust can't solve
should be off the test.

-Marc

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Imran,
>
> The "Stupid router tricks" or the "corner cases" are part of our day to day
> design and engineering life, there are times that you have no choice but to
> do a "007" configuration to get certain requirement implemented, without
> spending more money. I am sure that you are aware of this.
>
> You twist the relevant technologies to accomplish something totally
> different, which sets apart the CCNP from CCIE. Now, let's not make a
> federal case out of this, some may like the new blueprint and some may not
> like the new blueprint, but the newer blueprints *normally* improve the
> older versions, look at the Security or the SP track, but let's wait and
> see what the new blueprint brings to the table.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > so narbik, no more stupid router tricks .... no more corner case
> > scenarios....only the real and relevant technologies
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I agree James, it does not matter what they have added or what they have
> >> removed, if you know your stuff you will pass, and if you don't you will
> >> not, it's as simple as that.
> >> I am glad that Cisco removed some of the crappy (PFR, Frame-relay) stuff
> >> and have moved toward what's real out there.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:40 AM, James Poplawski <
> jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Why are people hung up on 6mo notice? They own the program, they owe
> >> > nothing to candidates.
> >> >
> >> > Study hard and get the digits regardless of what version.
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> > > On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:38 AM, ccie99999 <ccie99999_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Brian,
> >> > > your post says v5 could go live on March '14. What about 6 months
> >> notice
> >> > if
> >> > > they announce it in November '13 ?
> >> > >
> >> > > thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> We should see the announcement in November. Here is a blog post
> >> > >> concerning the version 5 update.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> http://blog.ine.com/2013/10/31/routing-and-switching-ccie-version-5-update/
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
> >> > >> bdennis_at_ine.com
> >> > >>
> >> > >> INE, Inc.
> >> > >> http://www.INE.com
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> On 10/31/13, 8:18 AM, "marc edwards" <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Saw this off twitter feeds. I will try to find more information
> >> > internally
> >> > >>> and provide to the group. If anyone has more information on
> changes,
> >> > >>> please
> >> > >>> don't be shy!
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> >
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> >> > >>>
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> >> > >>> CCIE #38259
> >> > >>>
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