Re: OT: We need your Voice - Petition to Cisco for CCIE Voice

I really don't understand your issue here. They aren't invalidating the
CCIE voice. If you stay renewed you will remain a CCIE.

If the is as much overlap as the article says this is your chance to become
a double CCIE without learning a new track.

When they retired the storage track they didn't give them data center CCIEs.

Marc
 On Jun 1, 2013 7:56 PM, "Somphol Boonjing" <somphol_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Greetings to all,
>
> First of all, my apology for posting this to the group quite off topic.
> And also for those who has already been aware of the situation in the past
> few days.
>
> I personally feel that the decision to retire CCIE Voice track while the
> core vertical technology doesn't change will lead to a step in the wrong
> direction to the future of the CCIE certification that most of us in the
> group care for.
>
> With that fact, I feel that if there is no suitable transition path for the
> CCIE Voice toward CCIE Collaboration apart of retaking the lab, an
> undesirable precedence will be successfully established. And the same
> thing can happen to any other IE track in the future as well. If we wait
> until that affect your CCIE Track of choice directly, it will be too late
> because by then the precedence will have been established.
>
> William Bell has done a great job in a post that voice his concerned and
> outlined what has happened -
> http://www.ucguerrilla.com/2013/05/ccie-needs-its-voice-back.html
>
> Use your own discretion, but if you think it is in your best interest to be
> concerned about it, we need your voice too. Let your voice be heard at
>
>
> https://www.change.org/petitions/cisco-provide-a-reasonable-transition-path-from-ccie-voice-to-ccie-collaboration
>
> Please also help pass the petition link on to ensure that everyone that
> could be affected is well informed over the situation.
>
> Below is a message from John Welsh who created the petition.
>
> Regards,
> --Somphol
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: John Welsh <mail_at_change.org>
> Date: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 5:04 AM
> Subject: CCIE Voice Transition
> To: somphol_at_gmail.com
>
>
> It's been just 48 hours since our petition was launched and we already have
> 540 supporters. I just wanted to say thank you to all of the people that
> have supported this, you guys are awesome! That being said, I want to
> continue adding people to this list to make Cisco hear our voice. If you
> can forward this petition on to anyone else that you know that this will
> effect it would be a huge help! Just some examples to get you brainstorming
> if you are a CCIE that this would effect:
>
> 1. Your spouse - I'm sure that your spouse supported you an put up with the
> time away you had to spend from your family the first time that you took to
> pass the lab. I'd bet they would rather have a reasonable transition plan
> for you to get to Collaboration rather than having to dedicate the time and
> money to another series of labs.
>
> 2. Your boss - again, time away from work, potentially money is going to
> effect them.
>
> 3. If you work for a partner: account managers, engineering managers,
> partner ownership and other engineers in your company: There's a time and
> money thing involved here too, there is also the perception for your
> customers that you have an obsolete certification. Additionally, while
> Cisco has said nothing to this extent yet, my firm belief is that if you
> are a Master UC partner then in the long term it will be required to have a
> Collaboration IE on staff instead of a Voice IE. This hasn't been announced
> yet, but I can definitely see this potentially being the long term path,
> that means either extra headcount or extra expense to upgrade the Voice IEs
> on staff.
>
> Again, thank you so much for supporting this petition, let's make ourselves
> heard!
>
> John Welsh
> CCIE Voice #20125
>
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