Told ya! ;)  Translation:  they are Varsity and he is JV!
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On Feb 19, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
> Well, that settles it then. I'll update my CCDE/CCAr bashing notes ;-)
> 
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> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
> Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert
> 
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Barnes, Steve
> <steve.barnes_at_impsolutions.com> wrote:
>> Simply not true. How do I know? I was the product Manager for the CCDE and CCAr at the time. The first two CCAr's did not help create the exam and in fact took the board exam. I was also on the board that graded them.
>> 
>> I hope that straightens that out.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of JV
>> Sent: February-11-13 5:28 PM
>> To: Marko Milivojevic
>> Cc: Mohamed A. Monsef Abbas; Mohammed Naviwala; Travis Niedens; Mark Stephanus Chandra; GS CCIE
>> Subject: Re: CCIE Data Center
>> 
>> Marko Dear,
>> 
>> Let me refresh your memory
>> 
>> The first 2 CCA passed do u know who we're they ?
>> 
>> Cisco employees and prepared the CCA course.
>> 
>> Once they got that certification they ditched cisco one sitting in HP and 2nd is out of cisco as well
>> 
>> And just to change the taste cisco is that bitch which can't make any this special than just buy it and put cisco tag on it
>> 
>> MERAKI is the latest example
>> 
>> Some time feel like burn all  4 CCIEs
>> Plaque including 10 years old member too in front of San France Cisco with media
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 12/02/2013, at 4:39 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Correct and from what I heard, he was involved with the exam creation
>>> itself, hence my comment about being grandfathered in. That said, I
>>> actually think he took the test, but he was involved with the creative
>>> process.
>>> 
>>> The second CCIE DC whom I know personally and was a great inspiration
>>> for my own becoming a CCIE (this is his 5th) passed last week on his
>>> 2nd attempt (and interestingly, he was the very first person to take
>>> the tast on day 1).
>>> 
>>> In his case, I can guarantee it wasn't just because he had a free
>>> attempt. That guy knows his stiff.
>>> 
>>> Until he comes out on his own, I won't disclose his name. He's from a
>>> Scandinavian country :-).
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor /
>>> Managing Partner - IPexpert
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Mohamed A. Monsef Abbas
>>> <m.abdelmonsef_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Robert Burns from Canada Cisco Employee
>>>> 
>>>> ca.linkedin.com/pub/robert-burns/10/755/bb
>>>> 
>>>> ;)
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:40 AM, JV <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's all bullshit. What cisco employee do is just take part
>>>>> preparing course and exam and the sit in exam which they prepared it
>>>>> with free attempted ( as cisco employee got 3 free any exam
>>>>> attempts)
>>>>> 
>>>>> And the tell all the world they are genius.... Shit as
>>>>> 
>>>>> I asked one scenario with such kind of grandfather and he f***ing
>>>>> worse the Ccnp level
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just making money from every side and claiming as leader
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Save my this email for future reference
>>>>> 
>>>>> When all cisco claim as leader will f***up
>>>>> 
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/02/2013, at 4:33 PM, Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> one of them is Robert Burns. second I dont know.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Travis Niedens
>>>>>> <niedentj_at_hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Who was grandfathered in ? Silvano gai ?? Who else could be
>>>>>>> considered the father of nxos and MDS ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> T
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2013, at 8:54 AM, "Marko Milivojevic"
>>>>>>> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have heard from two people who have passed. One of them was
>>>>>>>> sort of grandfathered in and the 2nd one passed couple of days
>>>>>>>> ago. Both are Cisco employees.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor /
>>>>>>>> Managing Partner - IPexpert
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Mark Stephanus Chandra
>>>>>>>> <mark.chandra_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Just wondering has anyone attempted CCIE data Center before ?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I want to know how you prepare for this ?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Any Bootcamp to CCIE DC ? Any lab rentals ? I used to rental INE
>>>>>>>>> Racks
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> CCIE RS Preparation :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Guys
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>> 
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