Well, that settles it then. I'll update my CCDE/CCAr bashing notes ;-)
-- Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Barnes, Steve <steve.barnes_at_impsolutions.com> wrote: > Simply not true. How do I know? I was the product Manager for the CCDE and CCAr at the time. The first two CCAr's did not help create the exam and in fact took the board exam. I was also on the board that graded them. > > I hope that straightens that out. > > Cheers, > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of JV > Sent: February-11-13 5:28 PM > To: Marko Milivojevic > Cc: Mohamed A. Monsef Abbas; Mohammed Naviwala; Travis Niedens; Mark Stephanus Chandra; GS CCIE > Subject: Re: CCIE Data Center > > Marko Dear, > > Let me refresh your memory > > The first 2 CCA passed do u know who we're they ? > > Cisco employees and prepared the CCA course. > > Once they got that certification they ditched cisco one sitting in HP and 2nd is out of cisco as well > > And just to change the taste cisco is that bitch which can't make any this special than just buy it and put cisco tag on it > > MERAKI is the latest example > > Some time feel like burn all 4 CCIEs > Plaque including 10 years old member too in front of San France Cisco with media > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 12/02/2013, at 4:39 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com> wrote: > >> Correct and from what I heard, he was involved with the exam creation >> itself, hence my comment about being grandfathered in. That said, I >> actually think he took the test, but he was involved with the creative >> process. >> >> The second CCIE DC whom I know personally and was a great inspiration >> for my own becoming a CCIE (this is his 5th) passed last week on his >> 2nd attempt (and interestingly, he was the very first person to take >> the tast on day 1). >> >> In his case, I can guarantee it wasn't just because he had a free >> attempt. That guy knows his stiff. >> >> Until he comes out on his own, I won't disclose his name. He's from a >> Scandinavian country :-). >> >> -- >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor / >> Managing Partner - IPexpert >> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Mohamed A. Monsef Abbas >> <m.abdelmonsef_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi Robert Burns from Canada Cisco Employee >>> >>> ca.linkedin.com/pub/robert-burns/10/755/bb >>> >>> ;) >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:40 AM, JV <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> It's all bullshit. What cisco employee do is just take part >>>> preparing course and exam and the sit in exam which they prepared it >>>> with free attempted ( as cisco employee got 3 free any exam >>>> attempts) >>>> >>>> And the tell all the world they are genius.... Shit as >>>> >>>> I asked one scenario with such kind of grandfather and he f***ing >>>> worse the Ccnp level >>>> >>>> Just making money from every side and claiming as leader >>>> >>>> >>>> Save my this email for future reference >>>> >>>> When all cisco claim as leader will f***up >>>> >>>> Charlie >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 11/02/2013, at 4:33 PM, Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> one of them is Robert Burns. second I dont know. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Travis Niedens >>>>> <niedentj_at_hotmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Who was grandfathered in ? Silvano gai ?? Who else could be >>>>>> considered the father of nxos and MDS ? >>>>>> >>>>>> T >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 10, 2013, at 8:54 AM, "Marko Milivojevic" >>>>>> <markom_at_ipexpert.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have heard from two people who have passed. One of them was >>>>>>> sort of grandfathered in and the 2nd one passed couple of days >>>>>>> ago. Both are Cisco employees. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor / >>>>>>> Managing Partner - IPexpert >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Mark Stephanus Chandra >>>>>>> <mark.chandra_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just wondering has anyone attempted CCIE data Center before ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I want to know how you prepare for this ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any Bootcamp to CCIE DC ? Any lab rentals ? I used to rental INE >>>>>>>> Racks >>>>>> for >>>>>>>> CCIE RS Preparation :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Guys >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> _______ Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> ______ Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>> >>>>>> __________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> _____ Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Mohammed Naviwala >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>>> ____ Subscription information may be found at: >>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>>> ___ Subscription information may be found at: >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Do you Think we Can Fly ? >>> Well I Do. >>> >>> Eng. Mohamed A. Monsef Abbas >>> Cisco Networks Engineer >>> CCIEB. #37569 (R&S) >>> CCNPB. - CCIPB. - CCDPB. >>> CS-RSSSB. - IPv6-FGCEB. >>> ITILB. - ISO/IEC 27002B. >>> Cell Phone : +2 0109 255 6666 >>> Land Line : +2 02 24 66 2 33 8 > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.netReceived on Tue Feb 19 2013 - 11:30:48 ART
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