RE: CCDE Bootcamps

Jay,

Personal attacks in a public forum are simply uncalled for and
unprofessional. You were unhappy you didn't receive a beta-test
workbook that we said we would provide, but you didn't receive. Yet
after not receiving it, you said you sent an email which you didn't
receive a response to...our phone # is clearly listed on our website.
If you were really interested in receiving a copy of the workbook, you
would have called...but you never did.

We've been in business since 1998. We try our best to make our
customers happy which is why we wanted to give you a complimentary beta
copy of a workbook...sorry we didn't come through with that.

Ttyl
Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay McMickle [mailto:jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 4:51 PM
To: Brad Ellis
Cc: Ronnie Angello; Samarth Chidanand; Group Study CCIE
Subject: Re: CCDE Bootcamps

"if the shoe fits...." comes to mind, Brad.

Had you rectified the situation, not dealt ill with two instructors
and a friend (Steve DiBias) that did CCNP recordings for you, and had a
reputable product, we wouldn't be discussing this subject.

Oh, and your call to my cell phone just now shows that you get my emails
that would have kept you honest to correct my issue if you were worried
about it (as well as having my cell phone number to call me to make sure
I was taken care of).

Oh, and you can't sue someone for stating their opinion of your company
on an open and free forum! I don't appreciate your call tonight or the
unprofessional language your chose to speak to me in. Cursing at me will
get you nowhere.

Thank you for proving my point. End of story.

Regards,
Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (RS)
Sent from my iPhone 5

On Jan 6, 2013, at 6:33 PM, "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:

> Jay,
>
> Thanks for the slander! Calling myself and my company cheap and
> corrupt is absurd.
>
> Samarth - if you have any questions about our program, please feel
> free to contact me and I'll be happy to provide you with any
> information you desire.
>
> As of now, we have four people we have helped get their CCDE:
>
>
http://www.ccbootcamp.com/about-ccbootcamp/CCBOOTCAMP-ccde-hall-of-fame.
> html
>
>
> Thanks
> Brad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Jay McMickle
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 3:10 PM
> To: Ronnie Angello
> Cc: Samarth Chidanand; Group Study CCIE
> Subject: Re: CCDE Bootcamps
>
> *NOTE*
> CCBootcamp is absolute crap. I won't waste your time here, but all of
> there books last year were filled with typos, incorrect solutions, and

> not a good learning tool. I wasted my money, time, and effort on their

> bootcamp and workbooks for R&S. Maybe they have improved, but when the

> company is corrupt and cheap at its root (Brad Ellis), I don't expect
> any improvement, regardless of the track. There are a few instructors
> and people that have worked for them that I have spoken to, and each
> will agree with my statements above.
>
> Stick with the three best players-
> IPExpert, INE, and Micronics (Narbik). I've used all three for R&S
> and doing the same for CCIE Security now.
>
> I hope this helps. Happy Labbing!
>
> Regards,
> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (RS)
> Sent from my iPhone 5
>
> On Jan 6, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Note that I didn't actually work through Jeremy's scenarios either,
> but I recommend them because I know Jeremy, and he's a certified CCDE.
>>
>> To be fair I just did a quick search and looks like CCBootcamp offers
> a CCDE practical bootcamp, but I don't know anything about the
> instructor(s), content, cost, etc. I stand firmly behind my previous
> comments...
>>
>> Ronnie
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>> Samarth,
>>>
>>> I don't think that any of the vendors that are active here offer a
> CCDE bootcamp, but I could be wrong. If so, they may want to cover
> their eyes.
>>>
>>> I would just recommend working through Jeremy Filliben's practice
> scenarios. Other than working through these types of scenarios, I
> don't see how a bootcamp can prepare you for that exam.
>>>
>>> I attempted the practical a total of 4 times. Entire process cost
>>> me
> like $5-6K total out of pocket. One bootcamp will probably set you
> back that much. My personal opinion is that it's not worth it.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents...
>>>
>>> Ronnie
>>> 2012::1
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 6, 2013, at 12:39 AM, Samarth Chidanand
> <samarth_04_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello List members,
>>>> Can anyone share info about CCDE bootcamps. Who conducts them and
>>>> how the success rate is. I am interested to attend one. Many thanks
> in advance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Wishes.
>>>> SAMARTH
>>>> CCIE #18535 (R&S , Security)CCSI #34585
>>>>
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