Re: CCIE with Pass Guarantee

go narbik, sir.

This is the mission for the grandma. lol

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> I would LOVE to know the list, because I can stop them.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Adesh Chaudhary <
> er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Tim,
>>
>> Neither I mean to offend, Nor I am judging anyone.
>>
>> There are X number of vendors out there that are supplying these labs for
>> many years, that too along with Guarantees. let me know if you want a
>> list?
>>
>> You think Cisco is unaware of them? If Yes, I'd say WoWwwwww... If I am
>> being apathaetic, What is Cisco doing? Don't they know how to google or
>> what? Why don't they change the labs that frequently? If No, What did they
>> do about it? Maybe something without results, I don't know.
>>
>> Come on... they took jeremy cioara's blog down few years back, you think
>> they can't take on these sites?
>>
>> I make my choices, you make yours, others will choose for themselves. End
>> of the story.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I think we all have a solid understanding of what happens in
>> > interviews to those who dump, no hidden fact. But lots of us DO care
>> > about this topic, so to be so apathetic about it says a lot about you.
>> >
>> > ...LOL
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Adesh Chaudhary
>> > <er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > ccie exam has limited sets, No hidden fact. What if I give you mock
>> > > questions with same topology (replace Ethernet with serial or
>> whatever)
>> > and
>> > > similar IP's (replace subnet X with Y) & I think that should be
>> enough.
>> > They
>> > > are Cisco Partners... If using dumps, I believe they'd have found a
>> > > workaround OR dont know OR dont care OR whatever. For those who will
>> > pass,
>> > > will struggle in interviews OR even get a job but what next ???
>> Struggle
>> > to
>> > > justify their number... or would it be easier to hide OR may be do
>> > another
>> > > one the same way... LOL
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> I think what he is saying is - if a company claims that they can
>> teach
>> > >> you the entire blueprint in 11 days - with a guarantee - that it is
>> > >> way too suspicious. The guarantee just makes it more suspicious.
>> > >> Anyone can claim to teach you the blueprint in 11 days, but to
>> > >> guarantee passing based on having you take just a couple "practice"
>> > >> labs makes it plainly obvious. I really don't know what the
>> confusion
>> > >> is on this...
>> > >>
>> > >> Tim
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > Ahmed,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > so, what is the problem with the guarantee? Are you saying that
>> even
>> > >> > though
>> > >> > they offer a guarantee, you still can't pass the lab? There is a
>> hint
>> > in
>> > >> > there somewhere. ;)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> I certainly believe so put have no proof. But this topic has been
>> > >> >> discussed
>> > >> >> here over and over again. The reason I have posted this is because
>> > >> >> emtech
>> > >> >> is a big cisco player, and a big training institute. If they are
>> > doing
>> > >> >> this
>> > >> >> openly, blatantly, in front of Cisco's eyes and ears, than this is
>> > >> >> definitely a show stopper.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> How can something like this be ignored by cisco I have already
>> > >> >> reported
>> > >> >> this , lets see what happens.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Ahmed
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On 11 Dec 2012, at 00:02, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Ahmed, are you certain they are selling dumps like you suggest?
>> If so
>> > >> >> report them to Cisco
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/exam/violation_rules.html
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Cheers!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > I've received the below email . This is both a cisco partner
>> and a
>> > >> >> training
>> > >> >> > institute. This looks highly highly suspicious. Can we/Cisco do
>> > >> >> > something
>> > >> >> > about this and stop this non-sense.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I'm forwarding it as received.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Ahmed
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > >> >> > From: S.P Menon <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
>> > >> >> > Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM
>> > >> >> > Subject: CCIE with Pass Guarantee
>> > >> >> > To: "S.P Menon" <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > *CCIE R&S with Passing Guarantee*
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > This is an 11 days Program. We need you to be present at the
>> > >> >> > institute
>> > >> >> all
>> > >> >> > these days before your exams. There would be 3 model exams that
>> we
>> > >> >> provide
>> > >> >> > and you will have to clear at least 2 exams for you to qualify
>> for
>> > >> >> > this
>> > >> >> > program. Once you qualify for this program, If you do not pass
>> the
>> > >> >> > CCIE
>> > >> >> Lab
>> > >> >> > Exam in the first attempt, we will reimburse you the Lab Exam
>> fee
>> > of
>> > >> >> > USD
>> > >> >> > 1500.00 once you produce the confirmation that you have booked
>> the
>> > >> >> > CCIE
>> > >> >> Lab
>> > >> >> > Exam for the second time.****
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Following is the daily plan of action for this program;****
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > **C **Day 1: Model Exam 1****
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > **C **Days 2 & 3: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
>> 1.****
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > **C **Day 4: Model Exam 2****
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > **C **Days 5 & 6: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
>> 2****
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > **C **Day 7: Model Exam 3.****
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > **C **Days 8, 9 & 10: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
>> > >> >> > 3****
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > **C **Day 11: Final Discussions before CCIE Lab Exam based on
>> all
>> > >> >> > feedbacks & corrective actions taken.****
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > These Model Exams cost AED 800.00 each and in case you are
>> unable
>> > to
>> > >> >> clear
>> > >> >> > 2 out of 3, you may take extra lab exams by making extra
>> payment of
>> > >> >> > AED
>> > >> >> > 800.00 per lab.****
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** **
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > * *
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Best Regards,****
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > * *
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > *Sreejith Menon
>> > >> >> > Key Account Manager - Corporate Training
>> > >> >> > Emtech Computer Institute
>> > >> >> > P.O. Box 28023, Dubai, UAE*
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > *Cell: +97155 4526680
>> > >> >> > Tel: +9714 3583005 Ext: 302
>> > >> >> > Fax: +9714 3583321
>> > >> >> > URL: www.emtech.ae*
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > [image: Description: Description:
>> > >> >> > facebook]<
>> > >> >> >
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Emtech-Group/129228590532746?ref=hl>
>> > >> >> > ****
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > [image: cid:image001.jpg_at_01CD59C7.838492C0]****
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > *EMTECH COMPUTER CO. LLC** / *P. O. Box : 28023, Dubai, U.A.E.
>> */*
>> > >> >> > Tel. :
>> > >> >> > +971
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>> > >> >> > **infodxb_at_emtech.ae*<emtech_at_eim.ae>
>> > >> >> > ****
>> > >> >> >
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>> > > +91 99996 10511 (Delhi)
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