I would LOVE to know the list, because I can stop them.
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Adesh Chaudhary <
er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Tim,
>
> Neither I mean to offend, Nor I am judging anyone.
>
> There are X number of vendors out there that are supplying these labs for
> many years, that too along with Guarantees. let me know if you want a list?
>
> You think Cisco is unaware of them? If Yes, I'd say WoWwwwww... If I am
> being apathaetic, What is Cisco doing? Don't they know how to google or
> what? Why don't they change the labs that frequently? If No, What did they
> do about it? Maybe something without results, I don't know.
>
> Come on... they took jeremy cioara's blog down few years back, you think
> they can't take on these sites?
>
> I make my choices, you make yours, others will choose for themselves. End
> of the story.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I think we all have a solid understanding of what happens in
> > interviews to those who dump, no hidden fact. But lots of us DO care
> > about this topic, so to be so apathetic about it says a lot about you.
> >
> > ...LOL
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Adesh Chaudhary
> > <er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > ccie exam has limited sets, No hidden fact. What if I give you mock
> > > questions with same topology (replace Ethernet with serial or whatever)
> > and
> > > similar IP's (replace subnet X with Y) & I think that should be enough.
> > They
> > > are Cisco Partners... If using dumps, I believe they'd have found a
> > > workaround OR dont know OR dont care OR whatever. For those who will
> > pass,
> > > will struggle in interviews OR even get a job but what next ???
> Struggle
> > to
> > > justify their number... or would it be easier to hide OR may be do
> > another
> > > one the same way... LOL
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I think what he is saying is - if a company claims that they can teach
> > >> you the entire blueprint in 11 days - with a guarantee - that it is
> > >> way too suspicious. The guarantee just makes it more suspicious.
> > >> Anyone can claim to teach you the blueprint in 11 days, but to
> > >> guarantee passing based on having you take just a couple "practice"
> > >> labs makes it plainly obvious. I really don't know what the confusion
> > >> is on this...
> > >>
> > >> Tim
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > Ahmed,
> > >> >
> > >> > so, what is the problem with the guarantee? Are you saying that even
> > >> > though
> > >> > they offer a guarantee, you still can't pass the lab? There is a
> hint
> > in
> > >> > there somewhere. ;)
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> I certainly believe so put have no proof. But this topic has been
> > >> >> discussed
> > >> >> here over and over again. The reason I have posted this is because
> > >> >> emtech
> > >> >> is a big cisco player, and a big training institute. If they are
> > doing
> > >> >> this
> > >> >> openly, blatantly, in front of Cisco's eyes and ears, than this is
> > >> >> definitely a show stopper.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> How can something like this be ignored by cisco I have already
> > >> >> reported
> > >> >> this , lets see what happens.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ahmed
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 11 Dec 2012, at 00:02, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ahmed, are you certain they are selling dumps like you suggest? If
> so
> > >> >> report them to Cisco
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/exam/violation_rules.html
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Cheers!
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > I've received the below email . This is both a cisco partner and
> a
> > >> >> training
> > >> >> > institute. This looks highly highly suspicious. Can we/Cisco do
> > >> >> > something
> > >> >> > about this and stop this non-sense.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I'm forwarding it as received.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Ahmed
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > >> >> > From: S.P Menon <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
> > >> >> > Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM
> > >> >> > Subject: CCIE with Pass Guarantee
> > >> >> > To: "S.P Menon" <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > *CCIE R&S with Passing Guarantee*
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > This is an 11 days Program. We need you to be present at the
> > >> >> > institute
> > >> >> all
> > >> >> > these days before your exams. There would be 3 model exams that
> we
> > >> >> provide
> > >> >> > and you will have to clear at least 2 exams for you to qualify
> for
> > >> >> > this
> > >> >> > program. Once you qualify for this program, If you do not pass
> the
> > >> >> > CCIE
> > >> >> Lab
> > >> >> > Exam in the first attempt, we will reimburse you the Lab Exam fee
> > of
> > >> >> > USD
> > >> >> > 1500.00 once you produce the confirmation that you have booked
> the
> > >> >> > CCIE
> > >> >> Lab
> > >> >> > Exam for the second time.****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Following is the daily plan of action for this program;****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > **C **Day 1: Model Exam 1****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > **C **Days 2 & 3: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
> 1.****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > **C **Day 4: Model Exam 2****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > **C **Days 5 & 6: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
> 2****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > **C **Day 7: Model Exam 3.****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > **C **Days 8, 9 & 10: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
> > >> >> > 3****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > **C **Day 11: Final Discussions before CCIE Lab Exam based on
> all
> > >> >> > feedbacks & corrective actions taken.****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > These Model Exams cost AED 800.00 each and in case you are unable
> > to
> > >> >> clear
> > >> >> > 2 out of 3, you may take extra lab exams by making extra payment
> of
> > >> >> > AED
> > >> >> > 800.00 per lab.****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > * *
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Best Regards,****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > * *
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > *Sreejith Menon
> > >> >> > Key Account Manager - Corporate Training
> > >> >> > Emtech Computer Institute
> > >> >> > P.O. Box 28023, Dubai, UAE*
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > *Cell: +97155 4526680
> > >> >> > Tel: +9714 3583005 Ext: 302
> > >> >> > Fax: +9714 3583321
> > >> >> > URL: www.emtech.ae*
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > [image: Description: Description:
> > >> >> > facebook]<
> > >> >> >
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Emtech-Group/129228590532746?ref=hl>
> > >> >> > ****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > [image: cid:image001.jpg_at_01CD59C7.838492C0]****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > *EMTECH COMPUTER CO. LLC** / *P. O. Box : 28023, Dubai, U.A.E.
> */*
> > >> >> > Tel. :
> > >> >> > +971
> > >> >> > 4 3966233 */* Fax : +971 4 3967306 */* E-mail* :
> > >> >> > **infodxb_at_emtech.ae*<emtech_at_eim.ae>
> > >> >> > ****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > *EMTECH TECHNICAL LEARNING CENTER** /* P. O. Box : 28023, Dubai,
> > >> >> > U.A.E. */*Tel. : +971
> > >> >> > 4 3961400 */* Fax : +971 4 3968355 */* E-mail *:
> > >> >> > **training_at_emtech.ae*<training_at_emtech.ae>
> > >> >> > **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > *EMTECH COMPUTER CO. LLC (BR)** /* P. O. Box : 73795, Abu Dhabi,
> > >> >> > U.A.E. */*Tel. : +971
> > >> >> > 2 5592640 */* Fax : +971 2 5592641 */* Email* :
> > >> >> > **infoabd_at_emtech.ae*<emtechad_at_eim.ae>
> > >> >> > **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > *AL ZAHI COMPUTER. LLC** /* P. O. Box : 95357, Sharjah, U.A.E.
> */*
> > >> >> > Tel. :
> > >> >> > +971
> > >> >> > 6 5659581 */* Fax : +971 6 5659582 */* Email* :
> > >> >> > **infoshj_at_emtech.ae*<emt_shj_at_eim.ae>
> > >> >> > ****
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ** **
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > [image: cid:image002.png_at_01CD5940.DE9BE4B0]****
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> > > Thanks & Regards,
> > > Adesh
> > > +91 99996 10511 (Delhi)
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