Re: CCIE with Pass Guarantee

Dear Tim,

Neither I mean to offend, Nor I am judging anyone.

There are X number of vendors out there that are supplying these labs for
many years, that too along with Guarantees. let me know if you want a list?

You think Cisco is unaware of them? If Yes, I'd say WoWwwwww... If I am
being apathaetic, What is Cisco doing? Don't they know how to google or
what? Why don't they change the labs that frequently? If No, What did they
do about it? Maybe something without results, I don't know.

Come on... they took jeremy cioara's blog down few years back, you think
they can't take on these sites?

I make my choices, you make yours, others will choose for themselves. End
of the story.

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I think we all have a solid understanding of what happens in
> interviews to those who dump, no hidden fact. But lots of us DO care
> about this topic, so to be so apathetic about it says a lot about you.
>
> ...LOL
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Adesh Chaudhary
> <er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > ccie exam has limited sets, No hidden fact. What if I give you mock
> > questions with same topology (replace Ethernet with serial or whatever)
> and
> > similar IP's (replace subnet X with Y) & I think that should be enough.
> They
> > are Cisco Partners... If using dumps, I believe they'd have found a
> > workaround OR dont know OR dont care OR whatever. For those who will
> pass,
> > will struggle in interviews OR even get a job but what next ??? Struggle
> to
> > justify their number... or would it be easier to hide OR may be do
> another
> > one the same way... LOL
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think what he is saying is - if a company claims that they can teach
> >> you the entire blueprint in 11 days - with a guarantee - that it is
> >> way too suspicious. The guarantee just makes it more suspicious.
> >> Anyone can claim to teach you the blueprint in 11 days, but to
> >> guarantee passing based on having you take just a couple "practice"
> >> labs makes it plainly obvious. I really don't know what the confusion
> >> is on this...
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Ahmed,
> >> >
> >> > so, what is the problem with the guarantee? Are you saying that even
> >> > though
> >> > they offer a guarantee, you still can't pass the lab? There is a hint
> in
> >> > there somewhere. ;)
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I certainly believe so put have no proof. But this topic has been
> >> >> discussed
> >> >> here over and over again. The reason I have posted this is because
> >> >> emtech
> >> >> is a big cisco player, and a big training institute. If they are
> doing
> >> >> this
> >> >> openly, blatantly, in front of Cisco's eyes and ears, than this is
> >> >> definitely a show stopper.
> >> >>
> >> >> How can something like this be ignored by cisco I have already
> >> >> reported
> >> >> this , lets see what happens.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ahmed
> >> >>
> >> >> On 11 Dec 2012, at 00:02, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Ahmed, are you certain they are selling dumps like you suggest? If so
> >> >> report them to Cisco
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/exam/violation_rules.html
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I've received the below email . This is both a cisco partner and a
> >> >> training
> >> >> > institute. This looks highly highly suspicious. Can we/Cisco do
> >> >> > something
> >> >> > about this and stop this non-sense.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm forwarding it as received.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ahmed
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> >> > From: S.P Menon <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
> >> >> > Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM
> >> >> > Subject: CCIE with Pass Guarantee
> >> >> > To: "S.P Menon" <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > *CCIE R&S with Passing Guarantee*
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is an 11 days Program. We need you to be present at the
> >> >> > institute
> >> >> all
> >> >> > these days before your exams. There would be 3 model exams that we
> >> >> provide
> >> >> > and you will have to clear at least 2 exams for you to qualify for
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > program. Once you qualify for this program, If you do not pass the
> >> >> > CCIE
> >> >> Lab
> >> >> > Exam in the first attempt, we will reimburse you the Lab Exam fee
> of
> >> >> > USD
> >> >> > 1500.00 once you produce the confirmation that you have booked the
> >> >> > CCIE
> >> >> Lab
> >> >> > Exam for the second time.****
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Following is the daily plan of action for this program;****
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > **C **Day 1: Model Exam 1****
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > **C **Days 2 & 3: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam 1.****
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > **C **Day 4: Model Exam 2****
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > **C **Days 5 & 6: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam 2****
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > **C **Day 7: Model Exam 3.****
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > **C **Days 8, 9 & 10: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
> >> >> > 3****
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > **C **Day 11: Final Discussions before CCIE Lab Exam based on all
> >> >> > feedbacks & corrective actions taken.****
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > These Model Exams cost AED 800.00 each and in case you are unable
> to
> >> >> clear
> >> >> > 2 out of 3, you may take extra lab exams by making extra payment of
> >> >> > AED
> >> >> > 800.00 per lab.****
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ** **
> >> >> >
> >> >> > * *
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Best Regards,****
> >> >> >
> >> >> > * *
> >> >> >
> >> >> > *Sreejith Menon
> >> >> > Key Account Manager - Corporate Training
> >> >> > Emtech Computer Institute
> >> >> > P.O. Box 28023, Dubai, UAE*
> >> >> >
> >> >> > *Cell: +97155 4526680
> >> >> > Tel: +9714 3583005 Ext: 302
> >> >> > Fax: +9714 3583321
> >> >> > URL: www.emtech.ae*
> >> >> >
> >> >> > [image: Description: Description:
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> >> >> > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Emtech-Group/129228590532746?ref=hl>
> >> >> > ****
> >> >> >
> >> >> > [image: cid:image001.jpg_at_01CD59C7.838492C0]****
> >> >> >
> >> >> > *EMTECH COMPUTER CO. LLC** / *P. O. Box : 28023, Dubai, U.A.E. */*
> >> >> > Tel. :
> >> >> > +971
> >> >> > 4 3966233 */* Fax : +971 4 3967306 */* E-mail* :
> >> >> > **infodxb_at_emtech.ae*<emtech_at_eim.ae>
> >> >> > ****
> >> >> >
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> >> >> > **
> >> >> >
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