Re: OT: Ericsson SSR Router Vs Juniper MX series

From: Routing Freak <routingfreak_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 14:18:26 +0530

Hi Alberto

Can u give me the hardware forwarding performance rate for SSR for BNG
based networks and Juniper MX960.
I need to have 100000 subscribers and each subscriber has a separate QOS
profile with policies and services attached to each subscriber and also i
need to have a SLA tracker with each subscriber .

THe forwarding latency fo the box should not be more than 100 ms . The
forwarding throughput should be close to wire rate.
I also need Fabric based switches for this requirement as the subscribers
may scale in future.

THanks

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Alberto Santos
<albertofsantos_at_gmail.com>wrote:

>
> I don't know if I understood you right, but if u mean processing a QoS
> profile per-Subs in hardware, I would say yes, it does, but it looks like
> it has some limitations, since Juniper states that having a qos profile per
> Sub would require more memory resources than the ASIC can provide, so they
> change its behavior, it is not clear on how it works, would be nice to give
> a call to your SE. :D
>
> I would set up a trial with all the vendors(Ericsson/Juniper,etc) you have
> in mind and I would do a CPOC based on your requirements.
>
> BR/Alberto
>
>
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>
>
>
> On 14 October 2012 23:29, Routing Freak <routingfreak_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Gaurav, ASR's price is very expensive when compared to SSR or MX960.
>>
>> Joe, u got to be kidding me. no way that Huwaei bought Ericsson. Ericsson
>> acquired Redback and Redbacks product such as Smart Edge is now under
>> Ercisson control
>>
>> and now Ericsson has built its own Multi Service Edge router called as
>> SSR ( Smart Service Router ) which is fast replacing all Cisco ASR 9k and
>> Junipers MX960 in the market nowadays.
>>
>> Becasue its price is low when compared with ASR or MX and its performance
>> and feature set and their fabric architecture is too good when compared to
>> ASR9k.
>>
>> I dont have much idea on MX960 fabric, but SSR fabric and throughput is
>> extrememly good when compared to ASR9k
>>
>> 140Gb/slot thorughput with 20 slots and three stage fabric with benes
>> architecture separated by midplanes and 188 Packet switching engines and
>> dedicated Fabric Queues
>>
>> Overall the throughput of the box is 2Tb .
>>
>>
>> HI alberto
>>
>> Thanks for ur suggestion, a quick question on MX960 . Whether MX960 has
>> te hardware forwarding rate for Subscriber traffic and has built in
>> Hardware QOS ( Txring and RXring ) for wach customer profile. Is it
>> possible in MX960.
>>
>>
>> Hi Marko
>>
>> What is ur suggestion on Redback based routers ? Redback is good old
>> router. Now on the new age, do u see anyone knows about these SSR or SE
>> routers in the real time market .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Alberto <albertofsantos_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>> I think u should at least test Ericsson's SSR, it is a mult service
>>> router and it incorporate almost all smartedge featues and Based on what
>>> i've seem it will scale more than MX's and ASR's
>>> Either in number of sessions or thrput
>>>
>>> BR/
>>>
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>>> Em 14/10/2012, `s 13:50, Routing Freak <routingfreak_at_gmail.com>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> > Hi all
>>> >
>>> > I have a brand new customer site building up for their Edge
>>> functionality
>>> > such as Broadband Aggregation and Broadband Network Gateway ( BNG )
>>> for
>>> > their 10000 + Customer base sites. I have a option to use either
>>> Ericsson
>>> > SSR router or Juniper MX 960 series router
>>> >
>>> > Can anyone suggest me which one to go for ? Either for Ericsson SSR
>>> Router
>>> > or junipers MX960.
>>> >
>>> > Has anyone worked previously in Ericsson SSR router. I have seen a very
>>> > good feature set for BNG . Has anyone advice me on Ericsson router. I
>>> have
>>> > seen that there is a good customer base for Ericsson in Broadband
>>> Network
>>> > Aggregation and Broadband Network Gateway
>>> >
>>> > And i have seen the Juniper MX960 performance and also their feature
>>> set
>>> > for BNG is quite good. But MX Series is only used as a Metro Ethernet
>>> > Profile and also as a MPLS box exclusively and they dont have a very
>>> good
>>> > performance on BNG set as far as the comments and feedback from several
>>> > peers and customers.
>>> >
>>> > So can anyone shed some light on both these routers and has anyone has
>>> some
>>> > real time experience in working on these routers on BNG front.
>>> >
>>> > Please do advice me on this .
>>> >
>>> > THanks.
>>> >
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