Well... Cisco has it in India. Your point? :-)
-- Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Tony Singh <mothafungla_at_gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah I seen that, this is what were all fearing oh and weren't there faults on > switch fabric similar to cat os... > > Alcatel (although being french) tried a similar trick with an r&d facility in > turkey no copyright laws you get the picture... > > -- > BR > > Sent from my iPhone on 3 > > On 15 Oct 2012, at 18:59, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> I hope this doesn't come across a nationalistic or xenophobic but in regards > to Huwaei, are any of you uncomfortable having a Chinese company providing > your core infrastructure? I am sure all governments participate in state > sponsored hacking, but the Chinese just seem to take it to a whole different > level. Combined with the fact that Ren Zhengfei, the founder of the company, > served as an engineer in the Chinese army in the early 1980. Just last week > the US House Intelligence Committee called Huwaei a national security threat > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/us/us-panel-calls-huawei-and-zte-national-s > ecurity-threat.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0. >> >> -Marc Abel >> CCIE #35470 >> >> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Tony Singh <mothafungla_at_gmail.com> wrote: >> Huwaei now Cisco's main competitor Cisco said themselves, I'm surprised how > easy uk government have made it for them, Fujitsu Ericsson have had to come > out of their respective markets as they cant compete financially, Huwaei have > just announced a 1.3b deal in the uk which see's them opening and r&d plant in > London , they have also employed lords as advisors to their board - so to > sweeten the government! >> >> -- >> BR >> >> Tony >> >> Sent from my iPhone on 3 >> >> On 15 Oct 2012, at 18:06, Shaughn <maniac.smg_at_gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Agreed >> > >> > It's a pity far too many operators these days put more emphasis on price > than on an actual like for like basis. >> > >> > The initial price might be low but those multi year services agreements > tend to make up for that >> > >> > Just saying >> > >> > CCIE # 23962 (SP) >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > On 15 Oct 2012, at 6:35 PM, Cristian Ionescu <cristi.fx_at_gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi guys >> >> >> >> I must say that not allways the price is everything. You must take in > consideration also the post-sales support. >> >> Of course is hard to beat huawei on prices. They are working with price > dumping and they want, if possible, the whole pie. >> >> >> >> Cristian >> >> >> >> On Oct 15, 2012, at 9:00, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> If Price is the case, check Huwaie NE series, you will not be > disappointed, >> >>> I have seen big big ISPs here in middleeast who never in their DREAM > wanted >> >>> to go for Huwaie (you know right how we networking guys always think > Cisco, >> >>> Juniper,F5 , Brocade and others but NO HUWAIE). However after seeing > the >> >>> price difference they went for Huwai. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I know big deal of Smart City soluiton here in middleeast where Cisco >> >>> worked like crazy on prices but at the end HUWAI took the prices. I > really >> >>> doubt if anyone can beat HUWAI prices : ) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Routing Freak > <routingfreak_at_gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Gaurav, ASR's price is very expensive when compared to SSR or MX960. >> >>>> >> >>>> Joe, u got to be kidding me. no way that Huwaei bought Ericsson. > Ericsson >> >>>> acquired Redback and Redbacks product such as Smart Edge is now under >> >>>> Ercisson control >> >>>> >> >>>> and now Ericsson has built its own Multi Service Edge router called as > SSR >> >>>> ( Smart Service Router ) which is fast replacing all Cisco ASR 9k and >> >>>> Junipers MX960 in the market nowadays. >> >>>> >> >>>> Becasue its price is low when compared with ASR or MX and its > performance >> >>>> and feature set and their fabric architecture is too good when compared > to >> >>>> ASR9k. >> >>>> >> >>>> I dont have much idea on MX960 fabric, but SSR fabric and throughput > is >> >>>> extrememly good when compared to ASR9k >> >>>> >> >>>> 140Gb/slot thorughput with 20 slots and three stage fabric with benes >> >>>> architecture separated by midplanes and 188 Packet switching engines > and >> >>>> dedicated Fabric Queues >> >>>> >> >>>> Overall the throughput of the box is 2Tb . >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> HI alberto >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks for ur suggestion, a quick question on MX960 . Whether MX960 has > te >> >>>> hardware forwarding rate for Subscriber traffic and has built in > Hardware >> >>>> QOS ( Txring and RXring ) for wach customer profile. Is it possible in >> >>>> MX960. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi Marko >> >>>> >> >>>> What is ur suggestion on Redback based routers ? Redback is good old >> >>>> router. Now on the new age, do u see anyone knows about these SSR or > SE >> >>>> routers in the real time market . >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Alberto <albertofsantos_at_gmail.com> > wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Hi there, >> >>>>> I think u should at least test Ericsson's SSR, it is a mult service >> >>>> router >> >>>>> and it incorporate almost all smartedge featues and Based on what > i've >> >>>> seem >> >>>>> it will scale more than MX's and ASR's >> >>>>> Either in number of sessions or thrput >> >>>>> >> >>>>> BR/ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Enviado via iPhone >> >>>>> CCIE# 26648 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Em 14/10/2012, `s 13:50, Routing Freak <routingfreak_at_gmail.com> >> >>>> escreveu: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Hi all >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I have a brand new customer site building up for their Edge >> >>>> functionality >> >>>>>> such as Broadband Aggregation and Broadband Network Gateway ( BNG ) >> >>>> for >> >>>>>> their 10000 + Customer base sites. I have a option to use either >> >>>>> Ericsson >> >>>>>> SSR router or Juniper MX 960 series router >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Can anyone suggest me which one to go for ? Either for Ericsson SSR >> >>>>> Router >> >>>>>> or junipers MX960. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Has anyone worked previously in Ericsson SSR router. I have seen a > very >> >>>>>> good feature set for BNG . Has anyone advice me on Ericsson router. > I >> >>>>> have >> >>>>>> seen that there is a good customer base for Ericsson in Broadband >> >>>> Network >> >>>>>> Aggregation and Broadband Network Gateway >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> And i have seen the Juniper MX960 performance and also their feature >> >>>> set >> >>>>>> for BNG is quite good. But MX Series is only used as a Metro > Ethernet >> >>>>>> Profile and also as a MPLS box exclusively and they dont have a very >> >>>> good >> >>>>>> performance on BNG set as far as the comments and feedback from > several >> >>>>>> peers and customers. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> So can anyone shed some light on both these routers and has anyone > has >> >>>>> some >> >>>>>> real time experience in working on these routers on BNG front. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Please do advice me on this . >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> THanks. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > _______________________________________________________________________ >> >>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >> >>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> >>>> >> >>>> > _______________________________________________________________________ >> >>>> Subscription information may be found at: >> >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Muhammad Nasim >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________________________________ >> >>> Subscription information may be found at: >> >>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> >> >> >> >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Subscription information may be found at: >> >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > >> > >> > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> > >> > _______________________________________________________________________ >> > Subscription information may be found at: >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Marc Abel >> CCIE #35470 >> (Routing and Switching) > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.netReceived on Mon Oct 15 2012 - 17:42:10 ART
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