Re: Security Question

Narbik,

If that is true you just ruin my day.... damn, something nice followed by
something less pleasant...

Will have to keep earning for a $2200 breakfast in Brussels...
Cheers

2012/8/14 Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>

> Did i tell you guys that Cisco might raise the price of the lab to $2200.
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:27 AM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > How do I console into router again?
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > yea and sameer still has a job as a ccie so he must be doing something
> > > right, we are all allowed to not know everything... its like
> experienced
> > > drivers not using signal when changing lanes or making turns.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:07 PM, sundeep sadhwani <
> > > sundeep.sadhwani_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dont want any more gossip regarding this :) :) Concentrate on studies
> as
> > >> our main motto is to be an expert :) :)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Joe Sanchez <marco207p_at_gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Looks like , Inam used IPexpert's to study..
> > >>> #29978 Sameer Inam (R&S) if this is the same Sameer.
> > >>>
> > >>> Joe Sanchez
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Michael Seonarain <
> > >>> mseonarain_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Not to throw fuel on the fire...With all do respect and any
> > prejudging
> > >>> > aside, Marc does have a valid point of argument. I would expect a
> > >>> question
> > >>> > like that from an aspiring ccie not someone how already has a ccie.
> > >>> At the
> > >>> > minimum, you should have the capacity to look it up using Google or
> > the
> > >>> > online doc cd. If I were to ask one of our in-house CCIEs that
> > >>> question,
> > >>> > knowing that I'm preparing for mine, they would tell me to go look
> it
> > >>> up.
> > >>> > I know as soon I read this question, the first thing that popped in
> > my
> > >>> head
> > >>> > was, is this guy for real? I don't know how he prepared but the
> > >>> workbooks
> > >>> > that I've used beat his simple topic to death. Just saying....
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:12 AM, marc edwards <
> renorider_at_gmail.com>
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > I know how hard I have worked to come up short 3 times without
> > using
> > >>> > dumps.
> > >>> > > For that reason, I have forever remembered https port and several
> > >>> ways to
> > >>> > > block w/ACL or policy. I might not have the digits but I would
> > never
> > >>> make
> > >>> > > that mistake. Sorry to pre judge. I am getting a taste for how
> many
> > >>> are
> > >>> > > getting by, now.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:38 PM, sameer inam <
> > i_sameer_at_hotmail.com>
> > >>> > > wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > > Marc,
> > >>> > > > first of all YOU don't even know how much struggle and
> hard-work
> > >>> behind
> > >>> > > MY
> > >>> > > > CCIE .. it was 16 Months Journey which I never forget in my
> > entire
> > >>> > life
> > >>> > > ..
> > >>> > > > second thing its very Easy to comments on Others if they just
> > made
> > >>> any
> > >>> > > > Stupid
> > >>> > > > Mistake ... it was my Mistake that I didn't mention full thing
> > >>> which
> > >>> > I m
> > >>> > > > trying to achieve.. it was Poorly worded and Not clear.. Which
> > >>> created
> > >>> > so
> > >>> > > > much
> > >>> > > > confusion ..
> > >>> > > > But i can see yours approach about if some one made Stupid
> > >>> mistake and
> > >>> > > > Thank
> > >>> > > > you very much Haroon and Sadiq for your understanding .
> > >>> > > > Thanks,Sameer
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:52:22 -0400
> > >>> > > > Subject: Re: Security Question
> > >>> > > > From: itguy.pro_at_gmail.com
> > >>> > > > To: sadiqtanko_at_gmail.com
> > >>> > > > CC: marcabel_at_gmail.com; ccie.butcher_at_gmail.com;
> > >>> i_sameer_at_hotmail.com;
> > >>> > > > ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Could be the lazy ccie syndrome? clearly, you need some
> > competence
> > >>> to
> > >>> > > pass
> > >>> > > > the
> > >>> > > > exam, even if you cheat and I don't think sameer cheated or
> > >>> anything
> > >>> > like
> > >>> > > > that
> > >>> > > > but this question is rather basic for a ccie.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > maybe access lists/filtering isn't sameer's cup of tea?
> > >>> > > > i've notice that questions coming from middle east/asia, etc.
> are
> > >>> > poorly
> > >>> > > > worded and lack detail which results in confusion.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Sadiq Yakasai <
> > >>> sadiqtanko_at_gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Even that, it is absolutely not your call to accuse the doctor
> of
> > >>> > > cheating.
> > >>> > > > Yes, you can decide not to go to that doctor.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Clearly, on Sameer's email, there is lack of clarify from his
> > >>> > question. A
> > >>> > > > lot
> > >>> > > > of options exist to how filtering could be done on a router and
> > >>> yes,
> > >>> > some
> > >>> > > > of
> > >>> > > > the techniques for filtering http are beyond the scope of R&S
> > >>> > blueprint.
> > >>> > > > Truth
> > >>> > > > is, CCIE Butcher does not know what Sameer was/is asking for,
> > >>> before
> > >>> > > > jumping
> > >>> > > > to the conclusion that he has cheated to get his CCIE. I still
> > >>> stand
> > >>> > that
> > >>> > > > this
> > >>> > > > is absolutely not acceptable!
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Ohh yeah, I also dont agree that a person can even cheat their
> > way
> > >>> out
> > >>> > of
> > >>> > > > the
> > >>> > > > lab exam without understand how to configure basic ACLs. Thats
> > >>> just a
> > >>> > non
> > >>> > > > starter my friend.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Sadiq
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:22 PM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > His prejudice was formed because a supposed CCIE came into this
> > >>> mailing
> > >>> > > > list
> > >>> > > > and asked a CCNA level question. I can understand if a CCIE
> > doesn't
> > >>> > know
> > >>> > > > everything and I make plenty mistakes myself but this is beyond
> > >>> that. A
> > >>> > > > CCIE
> > >>> > > > that can't write a basic access-list is a freaking joke! Don't
> > try
> > >>> to
> > >>> > > hide
> > >>> > > > behind asking a "security" question either, all types of
> > >>> access-lists
> > >>> > and
> > >>> > > > nbar
> > >>> > > > are fully covered and tested on the blueprint. There is
> > absolutely
> > >>> zero
> > >>> > > > chance
> > >>> > > > someone could legitimately pass the R+S lab without this most
> > basic
> > >>> > level
> > >>> > > > of
> > >>> > > > understanding.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > This would be like a doctor asking where the tonsils are
> located.
> > >>> Would
> > >>> > > you
> > >>> > > > want to go to that doctor?
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Sadiq Yakasai <
> > >>> sadiqtanko_at_gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > CCIE Butcher,
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > It is very serious and inconsiderate to accuse someone of
> > cheating
> > >>> only
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > based on a mere question he has asked on forum. If you are
> after
> > >>> trying
> > >>> > > to
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > prove if he genuingly got his CCIE or not, your method is
> > >>> diffinitely
> > >>> > not
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > the right one. You should get the facts straight before
> > >>> discrediting
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > someone's qualification, you know.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Please take your prejudice elsewhere.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Sadiq
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:10 AM, ccie.butcher <
> > >>> ccie.butcher_at_gmail.com
> > >>> > > > >wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > I am smelling a sweet fragerance of CCIECERT/PCL from him.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Haroon <
> itguy.pro_at_gmail.com>
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > > sameer, you are not doing that # justice.. google it up
> dood
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> > >>>
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/sec_data_plane/configuration/guide/sec_ur
> > >>> > > > l_filtering.html
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
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> > >>> > > > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:46 AM, sameer inam <
> > >>> i_sameer_at_hotmail.com
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > Gents,
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > Can we block https traffic on router level ? if yes could
> > you
> > >>> > > please
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > send
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > me
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > document
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > Appreciate your kind help as always
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > Sameer
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > > >
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> > >>> > > > > > > CCIE#29978
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