Re: Security Question

Did i tell you guys that Cisco might raise the price of the lab to $2200.

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:27 AM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> How do I console into router again?
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> > yea and sameer still has a job as a ccie so he must be doing something
> > right, we are all allowed to not know everything... its like experienced
> > drivers not using signal when changing lanes or making turns.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:07 PM, sundeep sadhwani <
> > sundeep.sadhwani_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dont want any more gossip regarding this :) :) Concentrate on studies as
> >> our main motto is to be an expert :) :)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Joe Sanchez <marco207p_at_gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Looks like , Inam used IPexpert's to study..
> >>> #29978 Sameer Inam (R&S) if this is the same Sameer.
> >>>
> >>> Joe Sanchez
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Michael Seonarain <
> >>> mseonarain_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Not to throw fuel on the fire...With all do respect and any
> prejudging
> >>> > aside, Marc does have a valid point of argument. I would expect a
> >>> question
> >>> > like that from an aspiring ccie not someone how already has a ccie.
> >>> At the
> >>> > minimum, you should have the capacity to look it up using Google or
> the
> >>> > online doc cd. If I were to ask one of our in-house CCIEs that
> >>> question,
> >>> > knowing that I'm preparing for mine, they would tell me to go look it
> >>> up.
> >>> > I know as soon I read this question, the first thing that popped in
> my
> >>> head
> >>> > was, is this guy for real? I don't know how he prepared but the
> >>> workbooks
> >>> > that I've used beat his simple topic to death. Just saying....
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:12 AM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > I know how hard I have worked to come up short 3 times without
> using
> >>> > dumps.
> >>> > > For that reason, I have forever remembered https port and several
> >>> ways to
> >>> > > block w/ACL or policy. I might not have the digits but I would
> never
> >>> make
> >>> > > that mistake. Sorry to pre judge. I am getting a taste for how many
> >>> are
> >>> > > getting by, now.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:38 PM, sameer inam <
> i_sameer_at_hotmail.com>
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > Marc,
> >>> > > > first of all YOU don't even know how much struggle and hard-work
> >>> behind
> >>> > > MY
> >>> > > > CCIE .. it was 16 Months Journey which I never forget in my
> entire
> >>> > life
> >>> > > ..
> >>> > > > second thing its very Easy to comments on Others if they just
> made
> >>> any
> >>> > > > Stupid
> >>> > > > Mistake ... it was my Mistake that I didn't mention full thing
> >>> which
> >>> > I m
> >>> > > > trying to achieve.. it was Poorly worded and Not clear.. Which
> >>> created
> >>> > so
> >>> > > > much
> >>> > > > confusion ..
> >>> > > > But i can see yours approach about if some one made Stupid
> >>> mistake and
> >>> > > > Thank
> >>> > > > you very much Haroon and Sadiq for your understanding .
> >>> > > > Thanks,Sameer
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:52:22 -0400
> >>> > > > Subject: Re: Security Question
> >>> > > > From: itguy.pro_at_gmail.com
> >>> > > > To: sadiqtanko_at_gmail.com
> >>> > > > CC: marcabel_at_gmail.com; ccie.butcher_at_gmail.com;
> >>> i_sameer_at_hotmail.com;
> >>> > > > ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Could be the lazy ccie syndrome? clearly, you need some
> competence
> >>> to
> >>> > > pass
> >>> > > > the
> >>> > > > exam, even if you cheat and I don't think sameer cheated or
> >>> anything
> >>> > like
> >>> > > > that
> >>> > > > but this question is rather basic for a ccie.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > maybe access lists/filtering isn't sameer's cup of tea?
> >>> > > > i've notice that questions coming from middle east/asia, etc. are
> >>> > poorly
> >>> > > > worded and lack detail which results in confusion.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Sadiq Yakasai <
> >>> sadiqtanko_at_gmail.com>
> >>> > > > wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Even that, it is absolutely not your call to accuse the doctor of
> >>> > > cheating.
> >>> > > > Yes, you can decide not to go to that doctor.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Clearly, on Sameer's email, there is lack of clarify from his
> >>> > question. A
> >>> > > > lot
> >>> > > > of options exist to how filtering could be done on a router and
> >>> yes,
> >>> > some
> >>> > > > of
> >>> > > > the techniques for filtering http are beyond the scope of R&S
> >>> > blueprint.
> >>> > > > Truth
> >>> > > > is, CCIE Butcher does not know what Sameer was/is asking for,
> >>> before
> >>> > > > jumping
> >>> > > > to the conclusion that he has cheated to get his CCIE. I still
> >>> stand
> >>> > that
> >>> > > > this
> >>> > > > is absolutely not acceptable!
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Ohh yeah, I also dont agree that a person can even cheat their
> way
> >>> out
> >>> > of
> >>> > > > the
> >>> > > > lab exam without understand how to configure basic ACLs. Thats
> >>> just a
> >>> > non
> >>> > > > starter my friend.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Sadiq
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:22 PM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > His prejudice was formed because a supposed CCIE came into this
> >>> mailing
> >>> > > > list
> >>> > > > and asked a CCNA level question. I can understand if a CCIE
> doesn't
> >>> > know
> >>> > > > everything and I make plenty mistakes myself but this is beyond
> >>> that. A
> >>> > > > CCIE
> >>> > > > that can't write a basic access-list is a freaking joke! Don't
> try
> >>> to
> >>> > > hide
> >>> > > > behind asking a "security" question either, all types of
> >>> access-lists
> >>> > and
> >>> > > > nbar
> >>> > > > are fully covered and tested on the blueprint. There is
> absolutely
> >>> zero
> >>> > > > chance
> >>> > > > someone could legitimately pass the R+S lab without this most
> basic
> >>> > level
> >>> > > > of
> >>> > > > understanding.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > This would be like a doctor asking where the tonsils are located.
> >>> Would
> >>> > > you
> >>> > > > want to go to that doctor?
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Sadiq Yakasai <
> >>> sadiqtanko_at_gmail.com>
> >>> > > > wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > CCIE Butcher,
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > It is very serious and inconsiderate to accuse someone of
> cheating
> >>> only
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > based on a mere question he has asked on forum. If you are after
> >>> trying
> >>> > > to
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > prove if he genuingly got his CCIE or not, your method is
> >>> diffinitely
> >>> > not
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > the right one. You should get the facts straight before
> >>> discrediting
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > someone's qualification, you know.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Please take your prejudice elsewhere.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Sadiq
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:10 AM, ccie.butcher <
> >>> ccie.butcher_at_gmail.com
> >>> > > > >wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > I am smelling a sweet fragerance of CCIECERT/PCL from him.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > > sameer, you are not doing that # justice.. google it up dood
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> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/sec_data_plane/configuration/guide/sec_ur
> >>> > > > l_filtering.html
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> >>> > > > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:46 AM, sameer inam <
> >>> i_sameer_at_hotmail.com
> >>> > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > > > Gents,
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > > > Can we block https traffic on router level ? if yes could
> you
> >>> > > please
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > send
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > > > me
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > > > document
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > > > Appreciate your kind help as always
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > > > Sameer
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