Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India

But a real CCIE is the KING in networks, excellent in issue solving and
fixing things.

I have recently seen an engineer who made vlan6000 on a switch, cant fix
bgp next hop issues, dont know how to run ospf authentication....list goes
on....

I believe when we are worth for getting CCIE, we will get it...atleast for
me. i can wait till im 60 years...no hurries...coz everytime i go in for
those 8 hours..i am happy that i am better then those cheaters who just knw
"sh ip route and sh ip int br"

//ray

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I am sorry guys, i am totally green when it comes to things like that.
> Let's go back to studying.
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Ryan Lindfield <ryan_at_westchasetech.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Fun facts: (yes facts)
> > It's coming from India.. It's available on f'ing eBay..
> > If Cisco cared they would have different tests in different regions and
> > more variety to the tests. Yes it's about making money. No they don't
> care
> > enough to even try to prevent it. Yes the value of CCIE is diminishing,
> and
> > yes this is why. There are tons of people passing, and many that are
> weak.
> > An abundance of CCIE's with a chance that some don't know what they heck
> > they are doing = less value no matter how you cut it.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CCIE-CISCO-RS-real-lab-work-book-routing-V4-2012-work-book-/261056929352?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item3cc8349e48
> >
> >
> > Thank you drive-thru please.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Narbik Kocharians [mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com]
> > To: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
> > Cc: Shaughn [mailto:maniac.smg_at_gmail.com], Muhammad Nasim [mailto:
> > muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com], ccie19804_at_gmail.com [mailto:
> ccie19804_at_gmail.com],
> > <ciscovikas_at_gmail.com> [mailto:ciscovikas_at_gmail.com],
> > ccielab_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com]
> > Sent: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:56:29 -0400
> > Subject: Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India
> >
> >
> > > Marko,
> > >
> > > Don't be tired of hearing the truth, first of all how do you know where
> > > they are coming from? To name three countries with such conviction,
> means
> > > that you know for sure. Remember that you need to be 100 percent sure,
> > > besides, how do you know where they are being sold? Just because the
> guys
> > > name is Vikas it does not mean that it's being sold in India, the
> person
> > > might be Indian but he could be selling them from another country. How
> do
> > > you differentiate an Indian name from a Pakistani name? How do you know
> > > what's in the test and how do you know if Cisco has not changed the
> test
> > > and these guys are buying a test that is no longer in use?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Marko Milivojevic
> > > <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > [ extremely angry e-mail please do not be personally, nationally or
> > > > racially offended, whoever you are. this is me expressing my own
> > opinion
> > > > an not the opinions of owners, partners and or employees of IPexpert
> ]
> > > >
> > > > You know what... I'm kind of tired of hearing that Cisco doesn't have
> > > > power in country X, Y or Z.
> > > >
> > > > Dumps are mostly coming from 3 countries: China, Russia and India.
> > Cisco
> > > > has testing centers in two, largest worldwide campus in one and major
> > > > physical and corporate presence in all three.
> > > >
> > > > If Cisco *really* wanted to go after sellers of these dumps, they
> > could.
> > > > They are not. Go figure.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> > > >
> > > > :: This message was sent from a mobile device. I apologize for errors
> > and
> > > > brevity. ::
> > > >
> > > > On Jul 3, 2012, at 19:26, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Also remember that Cisco may change the lab (Which is much easier)
> > than
> > > > go
> > > > > after these guys, especially when they are in a country that Cisco
> > has
> > > no
> > > > > jurisdiction, but they have to remember that Cisco can de-certify
> > them
> > > > when
> > > > > they wish, because no matter where you are from, your certification
> > is
> > > > > given to you by Cisco.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Shaughn <maniac.smg_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> There is so much fail in his email that I just simply don't know
> > where
> > > > to
> > > > >> start. Can I get the 2 mins of my life back ?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I know how Cisco operates and they do not take things like this
> > > lightly.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> CCIE # 23962 (SP)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 03 Jul 2012, at 8:44 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Unbelievable.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Muhammad Nasim <
> > > > >> muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Sorry for typo
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> replaced team with time : )
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Muhammad Nasim <
> > > > >> muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com
> > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Dear All,
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I am going to start very very Controversial Debate here.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I am asking for your forgiveness in advance if anyone will be
> > hurt
> > > by
> > > > >>>>> that, nothing intentional
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Based on my experience, we did complain about CCIE Labs( real
> > labs
> > > > and
> > > > >>>>> others) to CISCO with proofs we even forwarded user ids of the
> > > people
> > > > >> who
> > > > >>>>> are involved in this DIRTY BUSINESS of this cheating to Cisco
> but
> > > > CISCO
> > > > >>>>> does not do anything. IMHO, Cisco Systems is the whole reason
> of
> > > this
> > > > >> on
> > > > >>>>> going shortcut to Pass the CCIE exam, In my opinion (which is
> > based
> > > > on
> > > > >>>>> facts) that Cisco Systems does not want it to stopped.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Please note that in this business Proctors (YES CISCO
> > > Proctors),Cisco
> > > > >>>>> employees and also CCIE Trainers are involved.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Of course by their are only few bad fishes are involved but it
> is
> > > > shame
> > > > >>>> on
> > > > >>>>> cisco that once their top notched certification has declined in
> > big
> > > > >> team.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Note: Those who think that CCIE Labs are not real i think they
> > are
> > > > >>>>> mistaken, I know one institute where Trainer is only teaching
> > CCIE
> > > > Real
> > > > >>>>> labs and people are getting passed. From my personal point of
> > view
> > > we
> > > > >> did
> > > > >>>>> pass these activities to Cisco with name and email address and
> > other
> > > > >>>>> details and no action were taken, it seems to me that Cisco is
> > busy
> > > > in
> > > > >>>>> collecting 1400usd per attempt per candidate
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> No offense is intended nor will be to those who are working day
> > and
> > > > >> night
> > > > >>>>> to get this dream certification and May Allah help them to pass
> > > their
> > > > >>>> CCIE
> > > > >>>>> in flying colors.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Thanks & Best Regards
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM, ccie19804_at_gmail.com <
> > > > >> ccie19804_at_gmail.com
> > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> ur email is a disgrace to the ccie community!
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> being a fellow indian and a delhi-ite, its even more
> embarassing
> > > > >>>>>> "personally"
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> hope to interview u some day, u'll know ur real self and owe
> an
> > > > abject
> > > > >>>>>> appology tht day !!
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Swap
> > > > >>>>>> #19804
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >>>>>> Plaese ingore seplling mistkaes
> > > > >>>>>> ___________________________
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:19, <ciscovikas_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Dear frnz, i have my lab exam on sept and i am looking
> forward
> > to
> > > > >>>>>> purchase
> > > > >>>>>>> passccielab but since its cost is too high ($799), is there
> > > anybody
> > > > >>>> who
> > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > >>>>>>> interested in groupbuy of these labs especially anybody
> > residing
> > > in
> > > > >>>>>> India near
> > > > >>>>>>> Delhi area. Please reply ASAP or call me at 09868740425.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Regards
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Vikas
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
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> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>
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> > > > >>>>> --
> > > > >>>>> Muhammad Nasim
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> --
> > > > >>>> Muhammad Nasim
> > > > >>>>
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> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --
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> > > > >>> *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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