Ok, One Thing to say Its Just A business :)
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Marko,
>
> Don't be tired of hearing the truth, first of all how do you know where
> they are coming from? To name three countries with such conviction, means
> that you know for sure. Remember that you need to be 100 percent sure,
> besides, how do you know where they are being sold? Just because the guys
> name is Vikas it does not mean that it's being sold in India, the person
> might be Indian but he could be selling them from another country. How do
> you differentiate an Indian name from a Pakistani name? How do you know
> what's in the test and how do you know if Cisco has not changed the test
> and these guys are buying a test that is no longer in use?
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >wrote:
>
> > [ extremely angry e-mail please do not be personally, nationally or
> > racially offended, whoever you are. this is me expressing my own opinion
> > an not the opinions of owners, partners and or employees of IPexpert ]
> >
> > You know what... I'm kind of tired of hearing that Cisco doesn't have
> > power in country X, Y or Z.
> >
> > Dumps are mostly coming from 3 countries: China, Russia and India. Cisco
> > has testing centers in two, largest worldwide campus in one and major
> > physical and corporate presence in all three.
> >
> > If Cisco *really* wanted to go after sellers of these dumps, they could.
> > They are not. Go figure.
> >
> > --
> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >
> > :: This message was sent from a mobile device. I apologize for errors and
> > brevity. ::
> >
> > On Jul 3, 2012, at 19:26, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Also remember that Cisco may change the lab (Which is much easier) than
> > go
> > > after these guys, especially when they are in a country that Cisco has
> no
> > > jurisdiction, but they have to remember that Cisco can de-certify them
> > when
> > > they wish, because no matter where you are from, your certification is
> > > given to you by Cisco.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Shaughn <maniac.smg_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> There is so much fail in his email that I just simply don't know where
> > to
> > >> start. Can I get the 2 mins of my life back ?
> > >>
> > >> I know how Cisco operates and they do not take things like this
> lightly.
> > >>
> > >> CCIE # 23962 (SP)
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >> On 03 Jul 2012, at 8:44 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Unbelievable.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Muhammad Nasim <
> > >> muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Sorry for typo
> > >>>>
> > >>>> replaced team with time : )
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Muhammad Nasim <
> > >> muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Dear All,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I am going to start very very Controversial Debate here.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I am asking for your forgiveness in advance if anyone will be hurt
> by
> > >>>>> that, nothing intentional
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Based on my experience, we did complain about CCIE Labs( real labs
> > and
> > >>>>> others) to CISCO with proofs we even forwarded user ids of the
> people
> > >> who
> > >>>>> are involved in this DIRTY BUSINESS of this cheating to Cisco but
> > CISCO
> > >>>>> does not do anything. IMHO, Cisco Systems is the whole reason of
> this
> > >> on
> > >>>>> going shortcut to Pass the CCIE exam, In my opinion (which is based
> > on
> > >>>>> facts) that Cisco Systems does not want it to stopped.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please note that in this business Proctors (YES CISCO
> Proctors),Cisco
> > >>>>> employees and also CCIE Trainers are involved.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Of course by their are only few bad fishes are involved but it is
> > shame
> > >>>> on
> > >>>>> cisco that once their top notched certification has declined in big
> > >> team.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Note: Those who think that CCIE Labs are not real i think they are
> > >>>>> mistaken, I know one institute where Trainer is only teaching CCIE
> > Real
> > >>>>> labs and people are getting passed. From my personal point of view
> we
> > >> did
> > >>>>> pass these activities to Cisco with name and email address and
> other
> > >>>>> details and no action were taken, it seems to me that Cisco is busy
> > in
> > >>>>> collecting 1400usd per attempt per candidate
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> No offense is intended nor will be to those who are working day and
> > >> night
> > >>>>> to get this dream certification and May Allah help them to pass
> their
> > >>>> CCIE
> > >>>>> in flying colors.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks & Best Regards
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM, ccie19804_at_gmail.com <
> > >> ccie19804_at_gmail.com
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> ur email is a disgrace to the ccie community!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> being a fellow indian and a delhi-ite, its even more embarassing
> > >>>>>> "personally"
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> hope to interview u some day, u'll know ur real self and owe an
> > abject
> > >>>>>> appology tht day !!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Swap
> > >>>>>> #19804
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>>> Plaese ingore seplling mistkaes
> > >>>>>> ___________________________
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:19, <ciscovikas_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Dear frnz, i have my lab exam on sept and i am looking forward to
> > >>>>>> purchase
> > >>>>>>> passccielab but since its cost is too high ($799), is there
> anybody
> > >>>> who
> > >>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>> interested in groupbuy of these labs especially anybody residing
> in
> > >>>>>> India near
> > >>>>>>> Delhi area. Please reply ASAP or call me at 09868740425.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Regards
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Vikas
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Muhammad Nasim
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Muhammad Nasim
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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> > >>>>
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> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> *Narbik Kocharians
> > >>> *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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> > >>>
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> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Narbik Kocharians
> > > *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> > > *www.MicronicsTraining.com* <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
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> > >
> > >
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> *Narbik Kocharians
> *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> *www.MicronicsTraining.com* <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
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