Maybe there will be a groupon offers soon for group buy? :)
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On 4 Jul, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Marko,
> 
> Don't be tired of hearing the truth, first of all how do you know where
> they are coming from? To name three countries with such conviction, means
> that you know for sure. Remember that you need to be 100 percent sure,
> besides, how do you know where they are being sold? Just because the guys
> name is Vikas it does not mean that it's being sold in India, the person
> might be Indian but he could be selling them from another country. How do
> you differentiate an Indian name from a Pakistani name? How do you know
> what's in the test and how do you know if Cisco has not changed the test
> and these guys are buying a test that is no longer in use?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
> 
>> [ extremely angry e-mail  please do not be personally, nationally or
>> racially  offended, whoever you are. this is me expressing my own opinion
>> an not the opinions of owners, partners and or employees of IPexpert ]
>> 
>> You know what... I'm kind of tired of hearing that Cisco doesn't have
>> power in country X, Y or Z.
>> 
>> Dumps are mostly coming from 3 countries: China, Russia and India. Cisco
>> has testing centers in two, largest worldwide campus in one and major
>> physical and corporate presence in all three.
>> 
>> If Cisco *really* wanted to go after sellers of these dumps, they could.
>> They are not. Go figure.
>> 
>> --
>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> 
>> :: This message was sent from a mobile device. I apologize for errors and
>> brevity. ::
>> 
>> On Jul 3, 2012, at 19:26, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Also remember that Cisco may change the lab (Which is much easier) than
>> go
>>> after these guys, especially when they are in a country that Cisco has no
>>> jurisdiction, but they have to remember that Cisco can de-certify them
>> when
>>> they wish, because no matter where you are from, your certification is
>>> given to you by Cisco.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Shaughn <maniac.smg_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There is so much fail in his email that I just simply don't know where
>> to
>>>> start. Can I get the 2 mins of my life back ?
>>>> 
>>>> I know how Cisco operates and they do not take things like this lightly.
>>>> 
>>>> CCIE # 23962 (SP)
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 03 Jul 2012, at 8:44 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Unbelievable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Muhammad Nasim <
>>>> muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry for typo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> replaced team with time : )
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Muhammad Nasim <
>>>> muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am going to start very very Controversial Debate here.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am asking for your forgiveness in advance if anyone will be hurt by
>>>>>>> that, nothing intentional
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Based on my experience, we did complain about CCIE Labs( real labs
>> and
>>>>>>> others) to CISCO with proofs we even forwarded user ids of the people
>>>> who
>>>>>>> are involved in this DIRTY BUSINESS of this cheating to Cisco but
>> CISCO
>>>>>>> does not do anything. IMHO, Cisco Systems is the whole reason of this
>>>> on
>>>>>>> going shortcut to Pass the CCIE exam, In my opinion (which is based
>> on
>>>>>>> facts) that Cisco Systems does not want it to stopped.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please note that in this business Proctors (YES CISCO Proctors),Cisco
>>>>>>> employees and also CCIE Trainers are involved.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Of course by their are only few bad fishes are involved but it is
>> shame
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> cisco that once their top notched certification has declined in big
>>>> team.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Note: Those who think that CCIE Labs are not real i think they are
>>>>>>> mistaken, I know one institute where Trainer is only teaching CCIE
>> Real
>>>>>>> labs and people are getting passed. From my personal point of view we
>>>> did
>>>>>>> pass these activities to Cisco with name and email address and other
>>>>>>> details and no action were taken, it seems to me that Cisco is busy
>> in
>>>>>>> collecting 1400usd per attempt per candidate
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No offense is intended nor will be to those who are working day and
>>>> night
>>>>>>> to get this dream certification and May Allah help them to pass their
>>>>>> CCIE
>>>>>>> in flying colors.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks & Best Regards
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM, ccie19804_at_gmail.com <
>>>> ccie19804_at_gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ur email is a disgrace to the ccie community!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> being a fellow indian and a delhi-ite, its even more embarassing
>>>>>>>> "personally"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> hope to interview u some day, u'll know ur real self and owe an
>> abject
>>>>>>>> appology tht day !!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Swap
>>>>>>>> #19804
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> Plaese ingore seplling mistkaes
>>>>>>>> ___________________________
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:19, <ciscovikas_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dear frnz, i have my lab exam on sept and i am looking forward to
>>>>>>>> purchase
>>>>>>>>> passccielab but since its cost is too high ($799), is there anybody
>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> interested in groupbuy of these labs especially anybody residing in
>>>>>>>> India near
>>>>>>>>> Delhi area. Please reply ASAP or call me at 09868740425.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Vikas
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Muhammad Nasim
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Muhammad Nasim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
> 
> 
> 
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