Re: CCIE certification value.

Thanks Scott for sharing your views.....

I did the same thing..... as you explained.... helping these guys.... so
they should comeout with something.....

But these guys lack basic understanding....... so they fall into "some
bad"" category .... :)

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:

> You'll always find a variety of folks no matter what certification or
> status we are talking about. Some will be good, some will be bad, and
> most will be average (which I guess is why we get the term "average"!)
> It seems you have found a series of bad ones, but that doesn't mean
> everyone is.
>
> Now, there can be lots of reasons, some good, some bad... I'll go with
> the more innocuous one of the fact that it's REALLY difficult to retain
> the complete set of CCIE knowledge in your head forever. So just
> because they have answered poorly on something silly within OSPF,
> figure out why. Thrown an EIGRP question, or an IS-IS one, or a few BGP
> ones. If there are deficiencies in ALL of them, then it's clearly not
> just a retention problem. :)
>
> Even when I interview people any get completely inane answers, I'll just
> be like "ok, cool..." and move on to a different topic. Sometimes I'll
> come back with something different in the same area just to give another
> chance. Some people also don't do well interviewing.
>
> I'm pretty sure if the goal was to come up with questions that were
> tough, that someplace along the way you'd even manage to find something
> that I didn't remember. (It may take a while, and it would certainly be
> something I'd fix right afterwards, but it IS possible!) When
> interviewing, make sure the goal isn't just to stump someone. You'll
> eventually find that place with everyone!
>
> But you need to interview within the scope of what you want to use them
> for. If you're running a large OSPF network, then it absolutely makes
> sense they should be good at it. I'd just chalk it up to whether they
> were having a bad day or not. Keep looking and you'll find someone who
> meets your requirements!
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
> On 7/2/12 3:27 AM, shekhar sharma wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > First of all , before sharing anything , I want to say that I mean no
> > offense to anybody or any certifications.
> >
> > Just want you people to share your views on CCIE certification value.
> >
> > I am very upset with my experience with 3 CCIE certified candidates
> >
> > I was interviewing 3 CCIE candidates for my company requirement,
> although I
> > am not a CCIE ...am preparing for the LAB,just cleared the written.
> >
> > Out of three , two guys are CCIE(R&S) Lab certified and one is dual
> > CCIE(R&S + Service Provider).
> >
> > The first candidate was average on theortical knowledge on various
> > technologies that I didn't expect form a CCIE .But the main part is that
> he
> > doesn't have any practical knowledge on the actual implementation in real
> > world.
> >
> > The second candidate was below average on theortical knowledge ,not able
> to
> > answer even few OSPF questions and forget about the practical part. He
> too
> > was zero on it.
> >
> > Now the third candidate who is dual CCIE .He is working in Cisco. I was
> > expecting a lot from him. He was good on the technical knowledge ...not
> as
> > good as I expected......but again on the implementation part he was zero.
> >
> > Don't you guys think that Cisco certifications have become a ediucation
> > buisness.I could be wrong in saying that but... i think the trend has
> > changed now ....and everyone is running for just certification not
> becoming
> > actual IE.
> >
> > And this is affecting a lot the value of CCIE certification .....
> >
> > Again I mean no offense to anyone who is preparing for CCIE...I am too
> > preparing for LAB ,,, and some of the assumptions I have made could be
> > wrong.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Shekhar
> >
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