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-- BR Sent from my iPhone on 3 On 2 Jul 2012, at 15:40, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote: > Thought it quite the coincidence that the below quote landed in my inbox > next to this string: > > It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong > man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit > belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by > dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up > short again and again, because there is no effort without error or > shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who > spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows in the end the > triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least > he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those > cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat. > That was Theodore Roosevelt speaking at the Sorbonne in 1910, but he could > have just as easily been speaking to *you*. > > Make sense? > > Marc > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:57 AM, Andrew Podosenin <andrew.podosenin_at_gmail.com >> wrote: > >> Shekhar, >> >> Thanks for bringing up such an interesting topic. Let me ask you of the >> value of CCIE. From what you are describing these candidates were - in your >> opinion - CCNP caliber. Let's say - for the sake of the argument - there is >> a CCIE applicant that satisfies your most stringent requirements. He >> remembers, knows, designs, implements. How much is he/she worth to you, the >> employer (USD annually on top of the average CCNP)? >> You are in a fairly unique position in this distribution list: we have the >> knowledge you buy - you buy the knowledge we have. So - if we could partake >> of the experience from the other side of the table - what's the CCIE >> certification value? >> >> Regards, >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of >> shekhar sharma >> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 3:27 AM >> To: Cisco certification >> Subject: CCIE certification value. >> >> Hi All, >> >> First of all , before sharing anything , I want to say that I mean no >> offense to anybody or any certifications. >> >> Just want you people to share your views on CCIE certification value. >> >> I am very upset with my experience with 3 CCIE certified candidates >> >> I was interviewing 3 CCIE candidates for my company requirement, although I >> am not a CCIE ...am preparing for the LAB,just cleared the written. >> >> Out of three , two guys are CCIE(R&S) Lab certified and one is dual >> CCIE(R&S >> + Service Provider). >> >> The first candidate was average on theortical knowledge on various >> technologies that I didn't expect form a CCIE .But the main part is that he >> doesn't have any practical knowledge on the actual implementation in real >> world. >> >> The second candidate was below average on theortical knowledge ,not able to >> answer even few OSPF questions and forget about the practical part. He too >> was zero on it. >> >> Now the third candidate who is dual CCIE .He is working in Cisco. I was >> expecting a lot from him. He was good on the technical knowledge ...not as >> good as I expected......but again on the implementation part he was zero. >> >> Don't you guys think that Cisco certifications have become a ediucation >> buisness.I could be wrong in saying that but... i think the trend has >> changed now ....and everyone is running for just certification not becoming >> actual IE. >> >> And this is affecting a lot the value of CCIE certification ..... >> >> Again I mean no offense to anyone who is preparing for CCIE...I am too >> preparing for LAB ,,, and some of the assumptions I have made could be >> wrong. >> >> Regards, >> Shekhar >> >> >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.netReceived on Mon Jul 02 2012 - 19:38:03 ART
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