Re: CCIE certification value.

i am agreed with your opinion Jay.That we use to forget the stuff if we
are not working on the same technologies on daily basis.

But my point is for a CCIE , there should be a certain level and
expectation.

One of the guy i interview was not able to make a small network design for
a small Enterprise.....Now with this question, i am not expecting them to
know each and every technology.

So , that means something wrong is going on which is degrading the valuue
of CCIEs .....and can affect current & future CCIE candidates....

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

> I've seen twice replies coming in, and would like to offer my opinion as
> well.
>
> As a Technical Lead, as well as a hiring manager, I interview quit a few
> candidates. Most are CCIE's, or nearing it.
>
> I would like to mention that a CCIE isn't the ends to all means. It may
> mean that they once were great, but have moves into a role that doesn't
> engage those skills.
>
> Not to irritate any others here, but I'm sure some will admit, the older
> the number, the more cautious I am of a candidate I'm interviewing. I
> interviewed a double IE with a 9xxx number, that had forgotten BGP backdoor
> and BGP local-as (to help transition BGP numbers in our case).
>
> A skill/cert is like your windshield wipers. Don't use them and after a
> period of time, they won't work either. ;)
>
> It's all about the skillset that the Engineer is fresh with. I once heard
> that you are never as good as you once were, right before your passing of
> your IE (quote Narbik).
>
> To be honest, I passed 2 months ago, and I can't recall all of the
> frame-relay and OSPF tricks I learned as I don't work with either in my
> environment (MPLS, BGP, and EIGRP).
>
> Stay fresh on your skills and never become complaicent.
>
> Happy labbing.
>
> Regards,
> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
> Sent from iJay
>
> On Jul 2, 2012, at 2:27 AM, shekhar sharma <shekhar.sharma21_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > First of all , before sharing anything , I want to say that I mean no
> > offense to anybody or any certifications.
> >
> > Just want you people to share your views on CCIE certification value.
> >
> > I am very upset with my experience with 3 CCIE certified candidates
> >
> > I was interviewing 3 CCIE candidates for my company requirement,
> although I
> > am not a CCIE ...am preparing for the LAB,just cleared the written.
> >
> > Out of three , two guys are CCIE(R&S) Lab certified and one is dual
> > CCIE(R&S + Service Provider).
> >
> > The first candidate was average on theortical knowledge on various
> > technologies that I didn't expect form a CCIE .But the main part is that
> he
> > doesn't have any practical knowledge on the actual implementation in real
> > world.
> >
> > The second candidate was below average on theortical knowledge ,not able
> to
> > answer even few OSPF questions and forget about the practical part. He
> too
> > was zero on it.
> >
> > Now the third candidate who is dual CCIE .He is working in Cisco. I was
> > expecting a lot from him. He was good on the technical knowledge ...not
> as
> > good as I expected......but again on the implementation part he was zero.
> >
> > Don't you guys think that Cisco certifications have become a ediucation
> > buisness.I could be wrong in saying that but... i think the trend has
> > changed now ....and everyone is running for just certification not
> becoming
> > actual IE.
> >
> > And this is affecting a lot the value of CCIE certification .....
> >
> > Again I mean no offense to anyone who is preparing for CCIE...I am too
> > preparing for LAB ,,, and some of the assumptions I have made could be
> > wrong.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Shekhar
> >
> >
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