Re: CCIE certification value.

thanks peter ,

it was shocking for me.......that a CCIE doesnt know the basic....

Now after hearing so many views.....I need to accept the reality...

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Peter Alston <palston_at_gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Gal's?! you mean there are girls on here?! Oh my!!
>
> It is one of those things isn't it, there are people who obtain the CCIE
> as padding for their CV, get the cert and forget the rest. There are people
> who truly become experts and are amazing! and of course there are people
> who cheat their way to the top...
>
> I think that is the danger of any certification program, I have
> interviewed CCNP's and CCNA's myself, some of whom couldn't tell me how to
> connect to a device (its called a console cable people!!) yet when it came
> to their performance on the job they were alright...
>
> Does it affect the value of the certification - yes and no. The people
> like yourself who care will look for people who have the experience and
> know their stuff regardless of their level of certification, then there are
> hiring HR managers or agents with no clue who will look only for the CCIE
> number and hire anyway...
>
> The thing that keeps coming up in all these conversations about the value
> of the cert and the cheating is that it doesn't matter in the grand scheme
> of things - as long as you watch out for yourself and make sure YOU are
> doing the right thing, that you have the right motivation and reason for
> obtaining the cert then you have done the right thing. If you go into an
> interview against someone with dishonest intentions you are the person that
> is going to get the job - not them!
>
>
> Just my 2 rambling cents
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM, John Pelletier <
> john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com> wrote:
>
>> Although there certainly is an increase in cheating for the most part the
>> CCIEs that earned it via hands on experience and understanding
>> the
>> technologies are for the most part good network guys/gals.
>> ________________________________
>> From: shekhar sharma
>> <shekhar.sharma21_at_gmail.com>
>> To: Cisco certification <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 10:27 AM
>> Subject: CCIE certification value.
>>
>> Hi
>> All,
>>
>> First of all , before sharing anything , I want to say that I mean no
>> offense to anybody or any certifications.
>>
>> Just want you people to share your
>> views on CCIE certification value.
>>
>> I am very upset with my experience with 3
>> CCIE certified candidates
>>
>> I was interviewing 3 CCIE candidates for my company
>> requirement, although I
>> am not a CCIE ...am preparing for the LAB,just
>> cleared the written.
>>
>> Out of three , two guys are CCIE(R&S) Lab certified and
>> one is dual
>> CCIE(R&S + Service Provider).
>>
>> The first candidate was average on
>> theortical knowledge on various
>> technologies that I didn't expect form a CCIE
>> .But the main part is that he
>> doesn't have any practical knowledge on the
>> actual implementation in real
>> world.
>>
>> The second candidate was below average
>> on theortical knowledge ,not able to
>> answer even few OSPF questions and forget
>> about the practical part. He too
>> was zero on it.
>>
>> Now the third candidate who
>> is dual CCIE .He is working in Cisco. I was
>> expecting a lot from him. He was
>> good on the technical knowledge ...not as
>> good as I expected......but again on
>> the implementation part he was zero.
>>
>> Don't you guys think that Cisco
>> certifications have become a ediucation
>> buisness.I could be wrong in saying
>> that but... i think the trend has
>> changed now ....and everyone is running for
>> just certification not becoming
>> actual IE.
>>
>> And this is affecting a lot the
>> value of CCIE certification .....
>>
>> Again I mean no offense to anyone who is
>> preparing for CCIE...I am too
>> preparing for LAB ,,, and some of the
>> assumptions I have made could be
>> wrong.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shekhar
>>
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