Re: CCIE certification value.

Hi Shekhar,

 I had similar experience and started not looking for certifications when
starting an interview.. If a candidate can answer good number of questions
and strong on protocols (yes, candidate may have to review their CCIE notes
before attending an interview where they quote CCIE #logo) and his past
networking experience, then we consider his/her certifications. And if he
is CCIE then he is real gem and we offer what he deserves.
 We had bad experience with few candidates with CCNA/NP(or any other vendor
certification for matter) who doesn't know very basic. But they can be
easily isolated in interview. So, don't worry about few black sheep in
market..

 Work hard for your CCIE# and keep refreshing technologies even after your
CCIE#..

Happy Studying,
Venkat

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

> I've seen twice replies coming in, and would like to offer my opinion as
> well.
>
> As a Technical Lead, as well as a hiring manager, I interview quit a few
> candidates. Most are CCIE's, or nearing it.
>
> I would like to mention that a CCIE isn't the ends to all means. It may
> mean that they once were great, but have moves into a role that doesn't
> engage those skills.
>
> Not to irritate any others here, but I'm sure some will admit, the older
> the number, the more cautious I am of a candidate I'm interviewing. I
> interviewed a double IE with a 9xxx number, that had forgotten BGP backdoor
> and BGP local-as (to help transition BGP numbers in our case).
>
> A skill/cert is like your windshield wipers. Don't use them and after a
> period of time, they won't work either. ;)
>
> It's all about the skillset that the Engineer is fresh with. I once heard
> that you are never as good as you once were, right before your passing of
> your IE (quote Narbik).
>
> To be honest, I passed 2 months ago, and I can't recall all of the
> frame-relay and OSPF tricks I learned as I don't work with either in my
> environment (MPLS, BGP, and EIGRP).
>
> Stay fresh on your skills and never become complaicent.
>
> Happy labbing.
>
> Regards,
> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
> Sent from iJay
>
> On Jul 2, 2012, at 2:27 AM, shekhar sharma <shekhar.sharma21_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > First of all , before sharing anything , I want to say that I mean no
> > offense to anybody or any certifications.
> >
> > Just want you people to share your views on CCIE certification value.
> >
> > I am very upset with my experience with 3 CCIE certified candidates
> >
> > I was interviewing 3 CCIE candidates for my company requirement,
> although I
> > am not a CCIE ...am preparing for the LAB,just cleared the written.
> >
> > Out of three , two guys are CCIE(R&S) Lab certified and one is dual
> > CCIE(R&S + Service Provider).
> >
> > The first candidate was average on theortical knowledge on various
> > technologies that I didn't expect form a CCIE .But the main part is that
> he
> > doesn't have any practical knowledge on the actual implementation in real
> > world.
> >
> > The second candidate was below average on theortical knowledge ,not able
> to
> > answer even few OSPF questions and forget about the practical part. He
> too
> > was zero on it.
> >
> > Now the third candidate who is dual CCIE .He is working in Cisco. I was
> > expecting a lot from him. He was good on the technical knowledge ...not
> as
> > good as I expected......but again on the implementation part he was zero.
> >
> > Don't you guys think that Cisco certifications have become a ediucation
> > buisness.I could be wrong in saying that but... i think the trend has
> > changed now ....and everyone is running for just certification not
> becoming
> > actual IE.
> >
> > And this is affecting a lot the value of CCIE certification .....
> >
> > Again I mean no offense to anyone who is preparing for CCIE...I am too
> > preparing for LAB ,,, and some of the assumptions I have made could be
> > wrong.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Shekhar
> >
> >
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