Re: prefix and acl

I sent the proof in the VTP thread but I will put it here too. Marko is
correct that VTP version 3 can not be currently tested in the lab because
it is not available on the version of IOS running on the Catalyst 3560
switches in the lab.

Lab switches run 12.2(44)SE

12.2(52)SE and later support VTP version 3
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3560/software/release/12.2_52_se/configuration/guide/swvtp.html

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:31 PM, john matijevic
<john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Marko,
>
> You did not clarify, Don clarified the question.
> VTP3 can be tested on the lab from the Cisco documentation website
> that I provided links to on other post.
> I go from what Cisco says and what is documented. I have yet to see
> where you get the information to suggest that Version 3 cannot be
> asked.
> "
> > I will repeat once again that VTPv3 is not supported on the release of
> > the software in the lab. It's up to you to either accept or not accept
> > that.
> "
>
> Where is this documented?
>
> Again, you should and i'll repeat again think before you speak, and
> addiitonally please try and be professional.
>
> Until you can prove me wrong I have to go with what is documented on
> Cisco's website as to the topics and software images on the Lab.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
> On 6/25/12, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, the question was can the ACL be used instead of a prefix-list to
> > accomplish the same result. We clarified that and that question was
> > answered...
> >
> > I will repeat once again that VTPv3 is not supported on the release of
> > the software in the lab. It's up to you to either accept or not accept
> > that.
> >
> > Personally, I've had just about enough of arguing with you. Please,
> > bother someone else. Or even better... spend time learning something
> > so you can pass CCIE again.
> >
> > --
> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
> > Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:20 PM, john matijevic
> > <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Marko,
> >>
> >> I disagree with you the question was very vague, you said you
> >> understood I asked you to clarify and you could not, finally, Don
> >> explained to me what his original intent was. But you answer that you
> >> understood his requirements, and I asked you state what he was asking
> >> and you could not provide.
> >>
> >> I prove you wrong again in other post VTP version 3 can be on exam,
> >> you said its not on exam, I asked you to provide reference you could
> >> not.
> >>
> >> Here is original question:
> >> Can I do this with an acl or extended cal, I have a Brain Freeze
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> R2#show run | sec rip
> >> router rip
> >> version 2
> >> network 10.0.0.0
> >> distribute-list prefix 1 in FastEthernet0/0
> >> no auto-summary
> >>
> >> R2#show run | sec prefix-list
> >> ip prefix-list 1 seq 5 permit 192.0.0.0/3 ge 24 le 24
> >>
> >> R2#show ip route rip
> >> R 223.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:19, FastEthernet0/0
> >> R 200.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:19, FastEthernet0/0
> >> R 192.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:19, FastEthernet0/0
> >> R 195.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:19, FastEthernet0/0
> >>
> >> if I am using a standard ACL
> >>
> >>
> >> Standard ACL
> >> R2#show run | sec rip
> >> router rip
> >> version 2
> >> network 10.0.0.0
> >> distribute-list 1 in FastEthernet0/0
> >> no auto-summary
> >>
> >> R2#show run | sec access-list
> >> access-list 1 permit 192.0.0.0 31.255.255.0
> >>
> >> R2#show ip ro rip
> >> R 223.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:07, FastEthernet0/0
> >> R 200.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:07, FastEthernet0/0
> >> 193.1.1.0/25 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> >> R 193.1.1.0 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:07, FastEthernet0/0
> >> R 192.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:07, FastEthernet0/0
> >> R 195.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:07, FastEthernet0/0
> >> 194.1.1.0/26 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> >> R 194.1.1.0 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:07, FastEthernet0/0
> >>
> >>
> >> Please try to be nice and friendly im here to help the team.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> John
> >>
> >> On 6/25/12, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
> >>> Below original question was output from various commands you didn't
> >>> bother to look at.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
> >>> Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:01 PM, john matijevic
> >>> <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Marc,
> >>>>
> >>>> I will repost original question and please identify in what way I was
> >>>> argumentitive or rude.
> >>>>
> >>>> {
> >>>> Good Afternoon,
> >>>>
> >>>> "Can I do this with an acl or extended cal, I have a Brain Freeze
> >>>> Thanks."
> >>>>
> >>>> What is this?
> >>>>
> >>>> Very vague, can you please be more specific and describe exactly the
> >>>> issue or problem that you are trying to solve?
> >>>>
> >>>> Please post network diagram and configurations.
> >>>> }
> >>>>
> >>>> Please try and be professional we are here to help not to be rude.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> John
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6/25/12, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Don't mess with Marko! That's my brother from another mother...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://t.co/ggHcHwFO
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 11:47 AM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Here you are again arguing (and being very rude) to a CCIE again
> >>>>>> (Marko
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> actually a 2X CCIE). The only reason you find the question vague is
> >>>>>> because
> >>>>>> you lack the knowledge to understand the question. Marko was taking
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> time to try to explain it and more detail to you and you act
> >>>>>> ungrateful
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> tell him to think before he responds.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You should probably consider going to a CCNP study group until you
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> stronger foundation to discuss these topics, or at the very least
> >>>>>> learn
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> be respectful and admit that it is YOU that needs more explanation
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> ask for it nicely.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Marc Abel
> >>>>>> CCIE #35470
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:50 PM, john matijevic
> >>>>>> <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Marko,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hasse was very vague with his question, since you understood what
> >>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>> question is I asked you to state it. Then Hasse responded with
> >>>>>>> clarification.
> >>>>>>> Please think before you respond.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 6/24/12, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> He's asking can he filter a specific prefix using an extended
> >>>>>>>> access
> >>>>>>>> list, instead of using a prefix list. He gives an example where he
> >>>>>>>> tried with a prefix-list and the example where he tried an acl,
> >>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>> obviously different results. Someone very quickly pointed out the
> >>>>>>>> difference, with the link to the Cisco's and INE's blog describing
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> particular use-case. Case closed, moving on. Don't overthink the
> >>>>>>>> questions.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
> >>>>>>>> Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:29 PM, john matijevic
> >>>>>>>> <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Good Afternoon Marko,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Please enlighten us.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Here is the question:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Can I do this with an acl or extended cal,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Please clarify what this is? I don't understand what he is
> asking?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>>> On 6/24/12, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> He did post the config snippets. I think the question was very
> >>>>>>>>>> clear.
> >>>>>>>>>> So were the answers :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
> >>>>>>>>>> Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:27 PM, john matijevic
> >>>>>>>>>> <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Good Afternoon,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Can I do this with an acl or extended cal, I have a Brain
> >>>>>>>>>>> Freeze
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks."
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> What is this?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Very vague, can you please be more specific and describe
> exactly
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> issue or problem that you are trying to solve?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Please post network diagram and configurations.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/24/12, Sarad <tosara_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hasse,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We can use a extended access-list in BGP to replace a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> prefix-list,
> >>>>>>> But
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> IGP it appears differently as extended accesslist represent
> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> route
> >>>>>>>>>>>> source and subnet (not subnet and subnet mask)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have a look at this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/01/04/using-extended-access-lists-in-a-distribute-list/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sara
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:12 PM, <daniel.dib_at_reaper.nu>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hasse,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You are trying to match every class C address with /24 mask
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> right?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not possible with a standard ACL. If you used extended ACL
> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> could
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> match
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mask like this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> access-list 100 permit 192.0.0.0 31.255.255.255 host
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 255.255.255.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> However I think this is only supported in BGP.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Daniel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 14:02:01 +0200, Hasse wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I do this with an acl or extended cal, I have a Brain
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freeze
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R2#show run | sec rip
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> router rip
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version 2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> network 10.0.0.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribute-list prefix 1 in FastEthernet0/0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no auto-summary
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R2#show run | sec prefix-list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip prefix-list 1 seq 5 permit 192.0.0.0/3 ge 24 le 24
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R2#show ip route rip
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R 223.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:19,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FastEthernet0/0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R 200.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:19,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FastEthernet0/0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R 192.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:19,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FastEthernet0/0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R 195.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:19,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FastEthernet0/0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if I am using a standard ACL
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Standard ACL
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R2#show run | sec rip
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> router rip
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version 2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> network 10.0.0.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribute-list 1 in FastEthernet0/0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no auto-summary
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R2#show run | sec access-list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> access-list 1 permit 192.0.0.0 31.255.255.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R2#show ip ro rip
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R 223.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:07,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FastEthernet0/0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R 200.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:07,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FastEthernet0/0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 193.1.1.0/25 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R 193.1.1.0 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:07,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FastEthernet0/0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R 192.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:07,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FastEthernet0/0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R 195.1.1.0/24 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:07,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FastEthernet0/0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 194.1.1.0/26 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> R 194.1.1.0 [120/1] via 10.1.12.1, 00:00:07,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FastEthernet0/0
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