Re: Studying for my fourth attempt

i always had a feeling that joe might be having High B.P and easily looses
his clam and starts complaining every now and then .

techincally i saw *him very less* helping people here than lashing them

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:55 AM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> You just sunk his battleship!
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > totally agreed with you Derek,
> >
> > OER is very big topic! I guess Leah have used very generic term "OER".
> > It's just like saying I failed in BGP question.
> > I don't see NDA violation here.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Derek Fink <cciedonkey_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Saying "After getting destroyed by topics such as OER on my last 2
> >> attempts" is NOT a NDA violation. OER is listed on the blueprint, and
> >> saying "topics such as OER" simply implies topics not considered
> >> "foundation topics".
> >>
> >> Being specific on how OER was presented in the lab would be a violation,
> >> but that is nowhere near what Leigh said.
> >>
> >> I feel like I have wasted the last 5 minutes of my life even reading and
> >> responding to this thread, but I don't like seeing CCIE's flaming
> >> candidates for no reason.
> >>
> >> Best of luck with your journey Leigh! Joe, get a life!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > CCIE isn't about working harder... It is about working smarter ;)
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
> >> > <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > They work harder than we do I have met enough CCIE s to learn
> >> having a
> >> > > 36 waist makes me Young Brad Pit compared to you guys J****
> >> > >
> >> > > ** **
> >> > >
> >> > > *From:* marc edwards [mailto:renorider_at_gmail.com]
> >> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:23 PM
> >> > > *To:* Joseph L. Brunner
> >> > > *Cc:* Leigh Finch; Jazz Sunn; Cisco certification
> >> > >
> >> > > *Subject:* Re: Studying for my fourth attempt****
> >> > >
> >> > > ** **
> >> > >
> >> > > Comparing a CCIE to a theme park employee? That statement, in
> itself,
> >> > just
> >> > > devalued the cert more than any NDA violation I have seen on this
> >> forum.
> >> > *
> >> > > ***
> >> > >
> >> > > ** **
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards,****
> >> > >
> >> > > ** **
> >> > >
> >> > > Marc****
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Joseph L. Brunner <
> >> > > joe_at_affirmedsystems.com> wrote:****
> >> > >
> >> > > If OER wasn't on your lab attempt why even mention it?
> >> > >
> >> > > Forget how much money I spent on my CCIE, I would care less how you
> >> get
> >> > > your number or not - think about the people at Cisco that work hard
> to
> >> > > bring you the test...
> >> > >
> >> > > Kind of like the characters at Disney World that get up at 5 am for
> >> > > rehearsals and wait around until the park opens each day, so 1000's
> of
> >> > > happy kids can rush into see them! Or Astronauts that spend 10 to 20
> >> > years
> >> > > in the military to earn the CHANCE to even APPLY for the space
> >> program...
> >> > > someone did something you didn't do so you could just watch...
> that's
> >> > this
> >> > > test...
> >> > >
> >> > > If you're really worthy of the test you'll respect it and just pass
> >> it -
> >> > > who needs to know what you got tested on the day you failed or pass?
> >> > >
> >> > > Also, whether you respect it or not that your business - but be
> warned
> >> > > there is an NDA and who knows what could happen if Cisco employees
> >> are on
> >> > > this forum looking for specific examples of NDA violations.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > >
> >> > > Joe****
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf
> >> Of
> >> > > Leigh Finch****
> >> > >
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:38 PM
> >> > > To: Jazz Sunn
> >> > > Cc: Cisco certification
> >> > > Subject: Re: Studying for my fourth attempt
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Jazz,
> >> > > Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't mean to suggest that OER was
> >> in my
> >> > > last two attempts (I should have worded that better). I meant to use
> >> OER
> >> > as
> >> > > a placeholder for a complex topic that I need to work on (and has
> >> been a
> >> > > popular topic on this forum of late).
> >> > >
> >> > > leigh****
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 21/06/12 10:33 AM, Jazz Sunn wrote:
> >> > > > Leigh, lots of people react before thinking. Joesph's likely
> >> invested
> >> > > > a large amount of time, engery and money for his number, and as a
> >> > > > result I'm sure the first hint he or anyone else in his position
> >> gets
> >> > > > that someone's attempting to devalue their credential, they lash
> >> out.
> >> > > > I'm assuming this was triggered by you stating OER was a topic for
> >> > > > your last two attempts. However, it's clearly documented at 2.8 of
> >> the
> >> > > > R&S blueprint that OER is a topic you are expected to master for
> the
> >> > > > exam. I'm not sure you would have received the same had you said
> BGP
> >> > > > gave you a hard time.
> >> > > > I have a blog, lots of my friends do, lots of people on this list
> >> do.
> >> > > > Writing about topics in an educational delivery model, blog or
> wiki,
> >> > > > helps reinforce your understanding of it. I for one encourage you
> do
> >> > > > to so, and look forward to reading some of your efforts.
> >> > > > Good luck!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Leigh Finch <
> leigh_at_leighfinch.net
> >> ****
> >> > >
> >> > > > <mailto:leigh_at_leighfinch.net>> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > At no point have I stated what was in my labs. My wiki is not
> >> > > > designed to be a dump site. I have not written about what was
> in
> >> > > > my labs. I'm covering broad topics with areas I need to work
> on.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I won't post about it again.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks, leigh
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 21/06/12 9:42 AM, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This should read - "After getting walked out by the
> Proctors
> >> > > > or denied my lab booking for BREAKING THE NDA by divulging
> >> > > > what I faced on my previous attempts".
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Please let's be professional and not turn this into a dump
> >> > > > board - you don't need to tell anyone (except your priest,
> >> > > > rabbi, imam, wife or attorney) what was on your CCIE lab
> >> exam.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Joe
> >> > > > #19366
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> >> >****
> >> > >
> >> > > > [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:
> nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> >> >]
> >> > > > On Behalf Of Leigh Finch
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:03 PM
> >> > > > To: Cisco certification
> >> > > > Subject: Studying for my fourth attempt
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi Everyone,
> >> > > > I'm starting to ramp up for my fourth attempt. After
> getting
> >> > > > destroyed by topics such as OER on my last 2 attempts.
> I've
> >> > > > decided to start writing wiki articles for each topic of
> the
> >> > > > blueprint to ensure, I know something about every topic.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I won't be writing everything about a topic, but I'll try
> my
> >> > > > best to be correct. Hopefully, if I'm confident enough to
> >> > > > publish something, I know it well enough and I'm not
> >> cheating
> >> > > > myself.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The first article I've written about is NTP. The rest of
> the
> >> > > > wiki is just a skeleton at the moment.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >****
> >> > >
> >> > > > http://leighfinch.net/cisco_wiki/index.php/Network_Time_Protocol
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If you see something wrong please unicast me.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Cheers, leigh
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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> >> > > >****
> >> > >
> >> > > >
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