RE: Verifying a CCIE for a friend... spider senses tingling

I am at Cisco live... the folks looked me up by First and Last name to give me my ccie hat in the certification lounge. Ask them if its yes or no.. they do not need to give you his number.

Neil Moore
MASEx2(Networking/WiFi),CCIEx6 #10044 (R/S,Security,Service Provider,Voice,Storage,WiFi),CISSP,ITIL,MCSE,VCP4/5

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of -Hammer-
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:28 AM
To: Haroon
Cc: CCIEAgent; Sirhan Khan; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Verifying a CCIE for a friend... spider senses tingling

Network going down examples:

1) I added some switches to the network but I don't understand that STP stuff. So I just made them "client". That sounds safe.

2) I know those dynamic protocols are cool but I need this packet to go this way. I added a route.

3) These visios are outdated. I think I'll turn on a discovery tool.

The list could go on. I've known people that just couldn't keep their hands off the network. Like some mad scientist constantly "tuning" what was already working fine. I'm sure I'm not alone.

-Hammer-

"I was a normal American nerd"
-Jack Herer

On 6/13/2012 11:22 AM, Haroon wrote:
> if network is going down, how is it his fault? is he doing something
> which would cause network to go down?
>
> some folks i've seen have a bad habit of fixing something which is
> working... they just can't help but mess with it. it could get
> annoying sometimes.
>
> if he claims to be a ccie, why not ask for his number? why didn't the
> hiring manager ask for his number when hiring? thats some bad
> management.... now suffer.
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:27 AM, CCIEAgent <ccieagent_at_verizon.net
> <mailto:ccieagent_at_verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> Just as an FYI when posting ask that on the list your first
> initial and last
> name or only last name be posted. This guy in the story
> http://ccieflyer.com/2011-03-Eman.php I posted in the CCIE Flyer
> took the
> real Kevin Hunt's name and number from the HOF list. Was using
> the number
> for 5 years before the story we posted got around. Now the fake
> CCIE has
> trouble explaining this story away and is getting what he deserves.
> Stand tall and be proud but in the HOF list ask for some obscurity.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
> [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>] On
> Behalf Of
> -Hammer-
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:59 AM
> To: Sirhan Khan
> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Subject: Re: Verifying a CCIE for a friend... spider senses
> tingling
>
> cciehof_at_gmail.com <mailto:cciehof_at_gmail.com>
>
> -Hammer-
>
> "I was a normal American nerd"
> -Jack Herer
>
>
>
> On 6/13/2012 8:26 AM, Sirhan Khan wrote:
> > Thanks for the info Hammer but http://www.cciehof.com/ does not have
> > contact details unless I am missing something .... ?
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:30 PM, -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:bhmccie_at_gmail.com>
> > <mailto:bhmccie_at_gmail.com <mailto:bhmccie_at_gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Good point Dark Fiber.
> >
> > I understand some peoples view of privacy but a CCIE number
> ranks
> > right up there with a doctorate or any other high end
> > qualification (no, I don't want to have the pilots license
> debate
> > again please) and should be verified prior to employment. If it
> > wasn't, it should be taken up with HR. Remind them of that
> little
> > search engine company...
> >
> > Regardless, to Dark Fibers point, number or not what your are
> > looking for is competency. If the individual has shown a
> > consistency in providing forward thinking solutions and helping
> > resolve issues (not introduced by him/her) then he can walk
> around
> > in a Novell shirt for all I care. If he has four CCIEs and a CCA
> > and a JNCIE and is the president of his local CUG and still
> can't
> > keep the network stable and keeps introducing issues then dump
> > him. It's not a matter of numbers.
> >
> > Yes, HR has a right to ask for his credentials especially if
> it's
> > on his resume or he has claimed he is a CCIE to improve his
> > position within the company. If he's not, you can apply light
> > discipline (you like the guy/gal) or outright termination
> (he/she
> > is an idiot) based on the violation.
> >
> > No, in regards to his skill set, it doesn't matter whether he is
> > one or not. The judgement should be based on performance.
> >
> > -Hammer-
> >
> > "I was a normal American nerd"
> > -Jack Herer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/13/2012 7:05 AM, Dark Fiber wrote:
> >
> > Obviously there is an issue there :)
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Humphrey
> > Cheung<not5150_at_gmail.com <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com>
> <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > As previously stated... he's not on that site. It
> was one
> > of the
> > first ones I checked.
> >
> > Humphrey
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Jameeluddin Mohammed
> > <jameeluddin.m_at_gmail.com <mailto:jameeluddin.m_at_gmail.com>
> <mailto:jameeluddin.m_at_gmail.com <mailto:jameeluddin.m_at_gmail.com>>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Did you try to find him on CCIE Hall of Fame list
> > available, which is listed
> > based on the ccie verification tool.
> > I could check many candidates status using just
> thier
> > first, last name on
> > this websites.
> >
> > http://www.cciehof.com/
> > http://cciehof.weebly.com/
> >
> > -Jameel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Humphrey
> > Cheung<not5150_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com> <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com>>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I agree that people should be a bit careful with
> > personal info.
> >
> > What's very strange is this guy has a full
> > LinkedIn profile... name,
> > university, past jobs, supervisor names,
> hundreds
> > of connections,
> > recommendations, everything is complete...
> except
> > for a CCIE number.
> >
> > Humphrey
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Sidney
> > D'Souza<mail.sidney_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>
> > <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Rob that personal info
> should be
> > hidden considering the day
> > and
> > age we live in but hiding your educational
> > qualifications from your
> > employer
> > is for me being too paranoid. Its like
> saying
> > you ll have to take my
> > word
> > for it that I am a CCIE.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sid
> >
> > Nobody's really listening, until you make a
> > mistake...
> >
> >
> >
> > From: me you [mailto:anunda19_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:anunda19_at_gmail.com>
> > <mailto:anunda19_at_gmail.com <mailto:anunda19_at_gmail.com>>]
> > Sent: 13 June 2012 11:02
> > To: Sidney D'Souza
> > Cc: Humphrey Cheung; Cisco certification
> > Subject: Re: Verifying a CCIE for a
> friend...
> > spider senses tingling
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't assume anything about him because he
> > hides is personal info. I try
> > to
> > hide all my personal information because you
> > never know when someone
> > will
> > use your personal info the wrong way.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Sidney
> > D'Souza<mail.sidney_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>
> > <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > People take pride in displaying their
> CCIE# so
> > your friend should have
> > smelt
> > something fishy when the guy refused to
> > disclose his CCIE number. Just
> > tell
> > your friend to take it up with HR and demand
> > his credentials. His number
> > can
> > be verified on the Cisco web site below.
> >
> >
> > https://sso.cisco.com/autho/forms/CDClogin.html
> >
> > You will need to create a CCO ID before you
> > can verify a Certification
> > number.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sid
> > Nobody's really listening, until you make a
> > mistake...
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
> > <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>>
> > [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
> > <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>>]
> On Behalf Of
> > Humphrey Cheung
> >
> > Sent: 13 June 2012 09:03
> > To: Cisco certification
> > Subject: Verifying a CCIE for a friend...
> > spider senses tingling
> >
> > This is a strange situation at my friend's
> > company... wanted to get some
> > ideas. I'm helping him verify the
> status of a
> > supposed CCIE.
> > I'll keep the names anonymous.
> >
> > Company hires new network admin
> > Network has crashed dozens of times
> since the
> > new guy has been hired
> > Network
> > admin claims to be a CCIE Network admin
> > doesn't divulge a number...
> > doesn't
> > sign his emails with his number, doesn't
> have
> > his number on LinkedIn
> > Looking
> > at the guy's job history, he's worked at big
> > name company's...
> > but generally lasts less than a year
> > Quick Google/LinkedIn/Facebook/Twitter/etc
> > search shows no hits for his
> > name
> > and anything saying CCIE or a number
> > (permutations of first name and
> > common
> > nicknames were used in the search just
> in case
> > we were missing anything)
> > Since there's no number, can't use the Cisco
> > verification tool because
> > it
> > requires a first/last name, cert type and
> > number
> >
> > Any pointers on where else to look? I think
> > we're about 90% sure this
> > guy
> > isn't a CCIE... but I think there's no
> actual
> > smoking gun that says,
> > "this
> > first name and last name is not and
> never has
> > been a CCIE"
> >
> > I'm at Cisco Live until Thursday
> evening.. if
> > you want to unicast me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Humphrey Cheung, CISSP #365719, CCNP, CCDP,
> > CCIP
> >
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