Re: Verifying a CCIE for a friend... spider senses tingling

"hands on"

:)

-Hammer-

"I was a normal American nerd"
-Jack Herer

On 6/13/2012 11:32 AM, Haroon wrote:
> did the job description say
>
> "self starter" ?
>
> hahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaha
>
> anyway, i think you should ask for his number. He says he is CCIE, he
> got to produce a number otherwise as someone suggested, its pink slip
> and cardboard box day.
>
> also, some type of change management would be nice to have.
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:28 PM, -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:bhmccie_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Network going down examples:
>
> 1) I added some switches to the network but I don't understand
> that STP stuff. So I just made them "client". That sounds safe.
>
> 2) I know those dynamic protocols are cool but I need this packet
> to go this way. I added a route.
>
> 3) These visios are outdated. I think I'll turn on a discovery tool.
>
> The list could go on. I've known people that just couldn't keep
> their hands off the network. Like some mad scientist constantly
> "tuning" what was already working fine. I'm sure I'm not alone.
>
> -Hammer-
>
> "I was a normal American nerd"
> -Jack Herer
>
>
>
> On 6/13/2012 11:22 AM, Haroon wrote:
>> if network is going down, how is it his fault? is he doing
>> something which would cause network to go down?
>>
>> some folks i've seen have a bad habit of fixing something which
>> is working... they just can't help but mess with it. it could get
>> annoying sometimes.
>>
>> if he claims to be a ccie, why not ask for his number? why didn't
>> the hiring manager ask for his number when hiring? thats some bad
>> management.... now suffer.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:27 AM, CCIEAgent
>> <ccieagent_at_verizon.net <mailto:ccieagent_at_verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Just as an FYI when posting ask that on the list your first
>> initial and last
>> name or only last name be posted. This guy in the story
>> http://ccieflyer.com/2011-03-Eman.php I posted in the CCIE
>> Flyer took the
>> real Kevin Hunt's name and number from the HOF list. Was
>> using the number
>> for 5 years before the story we posted got around. Now the
>> fake CCIE has
>> trouble explaining this story away and is getting what he
>> deserves.
>> Stand tall and be proud but in the HOF list ask for some
>> obscurity.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
>> [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>]
>> On Behalf Of
>> -Hammer-
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:59 AM
>> To: Sirhan Khan
>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Subject: Re: Verifying a CCIE for a friend... spider senses
>> tingling
>>
>> cciehof_at_gmail.com <mailto:cciehof_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> -Hammer-
>>
>> "I was a normal American nerd"
>> -Jack Herer
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/13/2012 8:26 AM, Sirhan Khan wrote:
>> > Thanks for the info Hammer but http://www.cciehof.com/ does
>> not have
>> > contact details unless I am missing something .... ?
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:30 PM, -Hammer-
>> <bhmccie_at_gmail.com <mailto:bhmccie_at_gmail.com>
>> > <mailto:bhmccie_at_gmail.com <mailto:bhmccie_at_gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Good point Dark Fiber.
>> >
>> > I understand some peoples view of privacy but a CCIE
>> number ranks
>> > right up there with a doctorate or any other high end
>> > qualification (no, I don't want to have the pilots
>> license debate
>> > again please) and should be verified prior to
>> employment. If it
>> > wasn't, it should be taken up with HR. Remind them of
>> that little
>> > search engine company...
>> >
>> > Regardless, to Dark Fibers point, number or not what
>> your are
>> > looking for is competency. If the individual has shown a
>> > consistency in providing forward thinking solutions and
>> helping
>> > resolve issues (not introduced by him/her) then he can
>> walk around
>> > in a Novell shirt for all I care. If he has four CCIEs
>> and a CCA
>> > and a JNCIE and is the president of his local CUG and
>> still can't
>> > keep the network stable and keeps introducing issues
>> then dump
>> > him. It's not a matter of numbers.
>> >
>> > Yes, HR has a right to ask for his credentials
>> especially if it's
>> > on his resume or he has claimed he is a CCIE to improve his
>> > position within the company. If he's not, you can apply
>> light
>> > discipline (you like the guy/gal) or outright
>> termination (he/she
>> > is an idiot) based on the violation.
>> >
>> > No, in regards to his skill set, it doesn't matter
>> whether he is
>> > one or not. The judgement should be based on performance.
>> >
>> > -Hammer-
>> >
>> > "I was a normal American nerd"
>> > -Jack Herer
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 6/13/2012 7:05 AM, Dark Fiber wrote:
>> >
>> > Obviously there is an issue there :)
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Humphrey
>> > Cheung<not5150_at_gmail.com <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com>
>> <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > As previously stated... he's not on that site.
>> It was one
>> > of the
>> > first ones I checked.
>> >
>> > Humphrey
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Jameeluddin
>> Mohammed
>> > <jameeluddin.m_at_gmail.com <mailto:jameeluddin.m_at_gmail.com>
>> <mailto:jameeluddin.m_at_gmail.com
>> <mailto:jameeluddin.m_at_gmail.com>>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Did you try to find him on CCIE Hall of
>> Fame list
>> > available, which is listed
>> > based on the ccie verification tool.
>> > I could check many candidates status using
>> just thier
>> > first, last name on
>> > this websites.
>> >
>> > http://www.cciehof.com/
>> > http://cciehof.weebly.com/
>> >
>> > -Jameel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Humphrey
>> > Cheung<not5150_at_gmail.com
>> <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com> <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com
>> <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com>>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I agree that people should be a bit
>> careful with
>> > personal info.
>> >
>> > What's very strange is this guy has a full
>> > LinkedIn profile... name,
>> > university, past jobs, supervisor
>> names, hundreds
>> > of connections,
>> > recommendations, everything is
>> complete... except
>> > for a CCIE number.
>> >
>> > Humphrey
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Sidney
>> > D'Souza<mail.sidney_at_gmail.com
>> <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>
>> > <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I agree with Rob that personal info
>> should be
>> > hidden considering the day
>> > and
>> > age we live in but hiding your
>> educational
>> > qualifications from your
>> > employer
>> > is for me being too paranoid. Its
>> like saying
>> > you ll have to take my
>> > word
>> > for it that I am a CCIE.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Sid
>> >
>> > Nobody's really listening, until
>> you make a
>> > mistake...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: me you
>> [mailto:anunda19_at_gmail.com <mailto:anunda19_at_gmail.com>
>> > <mailto:anunda19_at_gmail.com <mailto:anunda19_at_gmail.com>>]
>> > Sent: 13 June 2012 11:02
>> > To: Sidney D'Souza
>> > Cc: Humphrey Cheung; Cisco
>> certification
>> > Subject: Re: Verifying a CCIE for a
>> friend...
>> > spider senses tingling
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Don't assume anything about him
>> because he
>> > hides is personal info. I try
>> > to
>> > hide all my personal information
>> because you
>> > never know when someone
>> > will
>> > use your personal info the wrong way.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Rob
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:51 AM,
>> Sidney
>> > D'Souza<mail.sidney_at_gmail.com
>> <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>
>> > <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > People take pride in displaying
>> their CCIE# so
>> > your friend should have
>> > smelt
>> > something fishy when the guy refused to
>> > disclose his CCIE number. Just
>> > tell
>> > your friend to take it up with HR
>> and demand
>> > his credentials. His number
>> > can
>> > be verified on the Cisco web site
>> below.
>> >
>> >
>> > https://sso.cisco.com/autho/forms/CDClogin.html
>> >
>> > You will need to create a CCO ID
>> before you
>> > can verify a Certification
>> > number.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Sid
>> > Nobody's really listening, until
>> you make a
>> > mistake...
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>> <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
>> > <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>>
>> > [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>> <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
>> > <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>> <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>>] On Behalf Of
>> > Humphrey Cheung
>> >
>> > Sent: 13 June 2012 09:03
>> > To: Cisco certification
>> > Subject: Verifying a CCIE for a
>> friend...
>> > spider senses tingling
>> >
>> > This is a strange situation at my
>> friend's
>> > company... wanted to get some
>> > ideas. I'm helping him verify the
>> status of a
>> > supposed CCIE.
>> > I'll keep the names anonymous.
>> >
>> > Company hires new network admin
>> > Network has crashed dozens of times
>> since the
>> > new guy has been hired
>> > Network
>> > admin claims to be a CCIE Network admin
>> > doesn't divulge a number...
>> > doesn't
>> > sign his emails with his number,
>> doesn't have
>> > his number on LinkedIn
>> > Looking
>> > at the guy's job history, he's
>> worked at big
>> > name company's...
>> > but generally lasts less than a year
>> > Quick
>> Google/LinkedIn/Facebook/Twitter/etc
>> > search shows no hits for his
>> > name
>> > and anything saying CCIE or a number
>> > (permutations of first name and
>> > common
>> > nicknames were used in the search
>> just in case
>> > we were missing anything)
>> > Since there's no number, can't use
>> the Cisco
>> > verification tool because
>> > it
>> > requires a first/last name, cert
>> type and
>> > number
>> >
>> > Any pointers on where else to look?
>> I think
>> > we're about 90% sure this
>> > guy
>> > isn't a CCIE... but I think there's
>> no actual
>> > smoking gun that says,
>> > "this
>> > first name and last name is not and
>> never has
>> > been a CCIE"
>> >
>> > I'm at Cisco Live until Thursday
>> evening.. if
>> > you want to unicast me.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > --
>> > Humphrey Cheung, CISSP #365719,
>> CCNP, CCDP,
>> > CCIP
>> >
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