Re: OT: is this true? I am worried about studying for CCIE R&S

Yep I live in the US so cell phones won't be taking the place of any in
house systems here...

Greg's agenda also aligns with what company wants to sponsor PP's anymore
so mine are a tad different...NEC and openflow anyone? But now we are
getting off topic...

On Saturday, May 26, 2012, Lindsay Hill wrote:

> "You don't give cells phone to your cube workers"
>
> Actually, I see this all the time. My current role is in consulting, and I
> see a lot of different businesses. Specific functions such as call centres
> may not be issued mobiles, but every other person within those businesses
> has a mobile. Even though most staff sit in the same place every day, they
> use mobile phones. Standard calling plans offer free calling within a
> business group, or maybe effectively unlimited calling, so why bother with
> a desk phone?
>
> As for signal issues - are you based in the States? The USA has a very
> different telco industry, for various historical reasons. What goes on
> there does not really reflect the rest of the world at all. This is part of
> what Greg is getting at. You're right that Greg has his own agenda - but
> then we all do.
>
> On 26/05/2012, at 11:10 PM, Dark Fiber <darkfiber08_at_gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'darkfiber08_at_gmail.com');>>
> wrote:
>
> Cell is only viable for mobile workers. You don't give cells phone to your
> cube workers... That article was so off base and bias. Then you have signal
> issues which no one ever thinks about. My cell barely works at my desk.
> Ethereal has an agenda and always writes to that agenda.
>
> On Saturday, May 26, 2012, Mohammed Naviwala wrote:
>
>> hi
>>
>> That article was written 2 years back and we still dont see that
>> happening. keep studying guys.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Lindsay Hill <lindsay.k.hill_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> For many people, mobiles already have replaced VoIP systems.
>>>
>>> I do not have a desk phone now, nor do I expect to ever have one during
>>> the
>>> rest of my career. If I ever do get issued one once again, I will find it
>>> somewhat quaint, and it will probably just sit on my desk gathering dust,
>>> probably not even plugged in.
>>>
>>> There are some parts of the world where, for economic or cultural
>>> reasons,
>>> deskphones will hang on, but there are also large parts of the world
>>> where the
>>> economics don't stack up.
>>>
>>> See this: http://etherealmind.com/ip-telephony-over-no-cisco-voice/ for
>>> some
>>> more on it. For those who say "But there's plenty of demand here for
>>> Voice
>>> engineers!" - check the comments too. Certain places will retain demand,
>>> but
>>> the long term outlook for it is not great.
>>>
>>> Back to the R&S angle, I think the point is that you need to be aware of
>>> industry trends. No, OpenFlow won't change everything overnight. But the
>>> point
>>> is, networking will probably change dramatically over the next 10 years,
>>> and
>>> if you plan on staying in this industry for another 20-30 years, you
>>> need to
>>> stay on top of those changes. In many ways networking was pretty static
>>> for
>>> the last decade, but now there's a whole heap of pressures forcing
>>> change. You
>>> need to both look at the long term direction of your career - e.g. do I
>>> study
>>> CCIE R&S, or move towards application development - and the short-medium
>>> term,
>>> where you read enormous amounts, and stay on top of changes, so you
>>> don't want
>>> to get left behind.
>>>
>>> Sometimes I meet engineers who have gotten painted into a corner, where
>>> they
>>> know something really well, but they've gotten stuck, and the pool of
>>> potential employers is rapidly shrinking. OK, maybe they've got a good
>>> job
>>> now, but what happens if they have a falling-out with their employer?
>>> Not many
>>> options.
>>>
>>> Times change. But good engineers will adapt with those changes. Find a
>>> field
>>> that interests you, learn all you can, but keep your eyes open to change.
>>>
>>> - Lindsay
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/05/2012, at 4:49 AM, Dark Fiber wrote:
>>>
>>> > Remember when cell's phones were going to take the place of voip
>>> > systems?
>>>
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