Re: OT: is this true? I am worried about studying for CCIE R&S

I don't work with VoIP either so I don't have an agenda if it goes away or
not...

On Saturday, May 26, 2012, Dark Fiber wrote:

> Yep I live in the US so cell phones won't be taking the place of any in
> house systems here...
>
> Greg's agenda also aligns with what company wants to sponsor PP's anymore
> so mine are a tad different...NEC and openflow anyone? But now we are
> getting off topic...
>
> On Saturday, May 26, 2012, Lindsay Hill wrote:
>
> "You don't give cells phone to your cube workers"
>
> Actually, I see this all the time. My current role is in consulting, and I
> see a lot of different businesses. Specific functions such as call centres
> may not be issued mobiles, but every other person within those businesses
> has a mobile. Even though most staff sit in the same place every day, they
> use mobile phones. Standard calling plans offer free calling within a
> business group, or maybe effectively unlimited calling, so why bother with
> a desk phone?
>
> As for signal issues - are you based in the States? The USA has a very
> different telco industry, for various historical reasons. What goes on
> there does not really reflect the rest of the world at all. This is part of
> what Greg is getting at. You're right that Greg has his own agenda - but
> then we all do.
>
> On 26/05/2012, at 11:10 PM, Dark Fiber <darkfiber08_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Cell is only viable for mobile workers. You don't give cells phone to your
> cube workers... That article was so off base and bias. Then you have signal
> issues which no one ever thinks about. My cell barely works at my desk.
> Ethereal has an agenda and always writes to that agenda.
>
> On Saturday, May 26, 2012, Mohammed Naviwala wrote:
>
> hi
>
> That article was written 2 years back and we still dont see that
> happening. keep studying guys.
>
> Regards
>
> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Lindsay Hill <lindsay.k.hill_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
> For many people, mobiles already have replaced VoIP systems.
>
> I do not have a desk phone now, nor do I expect to ever have one during the
> rest of my career. If I ever do get issued one once again, I will find it
> somewhat quaint, and it will probably just sit on my desk gathering dust,
> probably not even plugged in.
>
> There are some parts of the world where, for economic or cultural reasons,
> deskphones will hang on, but there are also large parts of the world where
> the
> economics don't stack up.
>
> See this: http://etherealmind.com/ip-telephony-over-no-cisco-voice/ for
> some
> more on it. For those who say "But there's plenty of demand here for Voice
> engineers!" - check the comments too. Certain places will retain demand,
> but
> the long term outlook for it is not great.
>
> Back to the R&S angle, I think the point is that you need to be aware of
> industry trends. No, OpenFlow won't change everything overnight. But the
> point
> is, networking will probably change dramatically over the next 10 years,
> and
> if you plan on staying in this industry for another 20-30 years, you need
> to
> stay on top of those changes. In many ways networking was pretty static for
> the last decade, but now there's a whole heap of pressures forcing change.
> You
> need to both look at the long term direction of your career - e.g. do I
> study
> CCIE R&S, or move towards application development - and the short-medium
> term,
> where you read enormous amounts, and stay on top of changes, so you don't
> want
> to get left behind.
>
> Sometimes I meet engineers who have gotten painted into a corner, where
> they
> know something really well, but they've gotten stuck, and the pool of
> potential employers is rapidly shrinking. OK, maybe they've got a good job
> now, but what happens if they have a falling-out with their employer? Not
> many
> options.
>
> Times change. But good engineers will adapt with those changes. Find a
> field
> that interests you, learn all you can, but keep your eyes open to change.
>
> - Lindsay
>
>
> On 26/05/2012, at 4:49 AM, Dark Fiber wrote:
>
> > Remember when cell's phones were going to take the place of voip
> > systems?
>
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