Re: OT: is this true? I am worried about studying for CCIE R&S

That's a good point. I'm a Network/Security guy. That includes load
balancers and application firewalls. So when I'm not troubleshooting
OSPF or BGP issues I'm working with cross site vulns and sql injection
issues on some poorly written app. Then to relax I go over and
troubleshoot VPCs on my Nexus gear while working with other folks on
FCOE stuff.

Get your R&S. Then get your Security or DataCenter. Then treat yourself
to some ice cream.

-Hammer-

"I was a normal American nerd"
-Jack Herer

On 5/24/2012 11:46 AM, Haroon wrote:
> agree with hammer.
>
> moreover, isn't network engineer already doing the app stuff like F5,
> Antivirus and antispam management, AD comes into that as well, more so with
> the MS System center, Asterisk, and with virtualization, stuff like server
> provisioning, VDI is something that many engineers are already doing, I
> know i am.
>
> even the app space need the *network* to run on so i don't think that
> eliminates the engineer, it just changes the title, and many will just end
> up doing the "network" part as well as configuration of it with support of
> the applications.
>
> CLI is just another tool and skill which may help you land a job than
> someone who doesn't know have it or is app centric!
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Scott Morris<swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
>
>> You may have lost more of them at "Duke Nukem" rather than IPX. :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
>>
>> CCDE #2009::D, CCNP-Voice, JNCIE-SP #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
>>
>> IPv6 Gold Certified Engineer, IPv6 Gold Certified Trainer
>>
>> CCSI #21903, JNCI-SP, JNCI-ER
>>
>> swm_at_emanon.com
>>
>>
>> Knowledge is power.
>>
>> Power corrupts.
>>
>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>>
>>
>> On 5/24/12 8:08 AM, -Hammer- wrote:
>>> Seriously?
>>>
>>> Yes. Openflow is pretty cool. So is fabric path. So is OTV. So is blah
>>> blah blah. I'm not going to be the guy who says "openflow is a fad"
>>> because I don't think that's true. But I am pretty sure my job is safe
>>> even at an escalated adoption rate of the technology. The reason us
>>> "CLI monkeys" make a little more than an MCSE or an RHCE or a Desktop
>>> Support Representative is because we understand the technology. And
>>> that understanding of a complicated world is what separates us. That's
>>> why you get called in to troubleshoot other peoples problems. Other
>>> folks who are "experts" in their field. That's why you laugh when a
>>> server admin calls himself an "architect" on his sig line. That's why
>>> you are the go to guy. It's not whether you've adopted a particular
>>> technology or not. It's whether you are a competent resource who
>>> UNDERSTANDS the technology. Routers and Switches probably won't go
>>> away before you retire. They may change roles and protocols but I
>>> doubt they will go away. How else can we play Duke Nukem over IPX?
>>>
>>> PS: If you don't understand that last sentence I forgive you for being
>>> young. IPX is a protocol. Not a training company.
>>>
>>> -Hammer-
>>>
>>> "I was a normal American nerd"
>>> -Jack Herer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/24/2012 4:05 AM, MSDP multicast wrote:
>>>> Tony - what did you get out of this blog post?
>>>> I don't know if I am going on the right path here doing R&S.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Tony Singh<mothafungla_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great blog man!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> BR
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony CCNP CCNA R&S JNCIS-SEC MCSEu get
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone on 3
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 May 2012, at 13:25, MSDP multicast<multicast100_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hello people,
>>>>>> Looks like someone posted about next big move in networking world.
>>>>>> My question is, should I study R&S or I should move into application
>>>>> world
>>>>>> more?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> http://bhatkoti.com/2012/05/23/why-should-a-network-engineer-move-into-an-app-space/
>>>>>> Thank you people.
>>>>>>
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