Re: My story- CCIE #35355

From: john matijevic <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:09:44 -0400

No worries Narbik,

Which next track are you studying for?

Regards,
John
On 5/9/12, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Hahahahaha
>
> Sorry my friend, i am teaching a class in NYC and i had few late late late
> and i mean late nights trying to finish up my books and studying for the
> next track and etc etc. It was a typo.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM, john matijevic
> <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Narbik,
>> I think you meant Jay!
>>
>> But will take the complements!!!
>> But not there yet Narbik, hold those compliments for when I do pass the
>> exam!
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>>
>> On 5/9/12, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> > John,
>> >
>> > Congratulations, and i know you have worked VERY hard to get this number
>> > and you totally deserve it. Thanks and I appreciate that you liked the
>> boot
>> > camp and the workbooks, but at the end of the day, it was all you, you
>> > stayed up all night, and you performed an unbelievable number of labs. I
>> > just did what any instructor would have done.
>> >
>> > Once again congratulations and i can't wait to read your success story
>> > about your Security CCIE.
>> >
>> >
>> > Good job mate.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, john matijevic
>> > <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Congradulations Alexei!!!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Very encouraging and thanks very much for sharing your learning
>> >> experiences.
>> >>
>> >> I spent 3 hours last nite, just on route redistribution alone, spent a
>> >> lot of time, with different filtering techniques of using
>> >> prefix-lists, access-lists, route-maps, distribute-lists etc, to
>> >> control Router injection behavior. It is this level of granularity
>> >> that you need to pass the exam. I was trying to understand where
>> >> routes where coming from and where they were traversing using tools
>> >> such as traceroutes, route tables etc.
>> >>
>> >> To pass the exam, from my experience as I have passed lab exam before
>> >> back in 2004, have to spend many, many, many hours not only on Docs
>> >> but with configuration you have to get to the detail.
>> >>
>> >> I look forward to getting back my old number again!!! Hopefully sooner
>> >> rather than later.
>> >>
>> >> Again congradulations its an amazing feeling!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> On 5/9/12, Alexei Monastyrnyi <alexeim73_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Great achievement and a nice number too!
>> >> > Congrats!
>> >> >
>> >> > A.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 5/9/2012 1:42 PM, Jay McMickle wrote:
>> >> >> Thanks:
>> >> >> I thank God.B This has been a dream of mine for 6 years, and he
>> >> >> solely helped me attain this! I donb t want to start a religion roll
>> as
>> >> >> we
>> >> >> are all from different parts of the word and have different
>> >> >> religious
>> >> >> backgrounds.B However, give God a year of your faith and belief and
>> >> >> see
>> >> >> if
>> >> >> things donb t change!
>> >> >> Secondly, my wife and family for dealing with me.B
>> >> >> Itb s been a constant 2 years of knowing that I need to get home and
>> >> lab.B
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> thank those that have helped me on the forums, and especially
>> Narbik.B
>> >> >> He
>> >> >> gave me a personal relationship through my training, and even hung
>> out
>> >> >> with us
>> >> >> until the wee morning hours during bootcamps to chat with us about
>> >> >> anything
>> >> >> and everything.B He really does care and it shows in his work.B
>> >> Finally,
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> thank my employer.B Without their support, I would have had to quit
>> my
>> >> >> job to
>> >> >> get this accomplished in 2 years.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Materials used:
>> >> >> Global Knowledge CIERS1
>> >> >> bootcamp
>> >> >> CCBootcamp MPLS for CCIE candidates (taken at Cisco LIVE)
>> >> >> INE (video
>> >> >> only)
>> >> >> IPExpert Blended Learning Solution (Vol1 and 3 only, video on
>> >> >> demand,
>> >> >> audio on demand)
>> >> >> CCBootcamp ALM bootcamp
>> >> >> Narbik CIERS1 (attended twice)
>> >> >> bootcamp, Advanced workbook, bootcamp 4.0 workbook
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> Hardware used:
>> >> >> I was
>> >> >> using 2800/3800/3560b s hardware cabled for each vendor.
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> Products that
>> >> >> didnb t work:
>> >> >> CCBootcamp workbooks- I attended a CCB in September 2011.B The
>> >> >> instructor (Rahim) was great and very knowledgeable.B I attended a
>> >> >> bootcamp,
>> >> >> but quickly cancelled on day 2 due to the workbooks alone.B There
>> were
>> >> >> so
>> >> >> many typos, that even the instructor had to work through the
>> workbooks
>> >> to
>> >> >> find
>> >> >> that it mentions the wrong routers as part of the restrictions.B
>> This
>> >> >> made me
>> >> >> start to doubt myself- not a good way to learn!B Ib m sure the
>> >> >> owner
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> come after me again for this posting, however, he did not follow up
>> on
>> >> >> his
>> >> >> promise to rectify the situation (by receiving a beta version of the
>> >> >> new
>> >> >> workbooks) and Ib m advising students away from your products as I
>> said
>> >> I
>> >> >> would.B I have a few more examples of the bad business practices,
>> but
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> spare you those details.B WORST WORKBOOKS EVER!
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> Dates:
>> >> >> - April 30, 2010-
>> >> >> Passed CCIE R&S Written
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> - May 3, 2010- Global Knowledge Bootcamp, CIERS1
>> >> >> (San Jose, California)
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> - July 2010- Passed CCIE Security written (Free test
>> >> >> at Cisco LIVE)
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> - July 2010-Dec. 2011
>> >> >> I was averaging 15 hours a week of
>> >> >> rack time over 4-5 days a week.B
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> - June 2011
>> >> >> I attended Narbikb s CIERS1
>> >> >> bootcamp.B WHOA.B Thatb s a lot to take in, but amazing training.B
>> >> The
>> >> >> man
>> >> >> is a walking IOS dictionary and can rattle off 7 levels deep of IOS
>> >> >> commands.B I learned his theory (not verbatim) that if you need a
>> >> >> sh
>> >> run
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> to use a b ?b , you arenb t ready for the lab.B I carried this with
>> me
>> >> >> throughout my studies after that.B Narbik taught me to look at the
>> >> >> requirement or question, think about what technology is at hand, and
>> if
>> >> >> itb s
>> >> >> a global, or interface command before starting in on a solution.B
>> >> >> Great
>> >> >> advice!
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> - Nov, 2011
>> >> >> I attended Narbikb s CIERS1 bootcamp for the second
>> >> >> time. I was better prepared and did much better on my assessment
>> labs.B
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> felt close to ready, but Narbik informed me that I wasnb t ready.B
>> >> >> Yet,
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> still had to make my attempt at the Lab to qualify for the Lab Safe
>> >> >> program.
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> - Dec. 13, 2011
>> >> >> My first attempt at the CCIE R&S lab.B I got a 50% (avg)
>> >> >> on the config section, and an 18% on troubleshooting.B I didnb t
>> >> >> expect
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> pass, but I was forced (so to speak) to take the lab by the end of
>> the
>> >> >> year to
>> >> >> qualify for the b Lab Safeb program (free second attempt).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Dec. 15- 2011
>> >> >> Kicked my labbing into high gear, and focused on the technologies I
>> >> didnb
>> >> >> t
>> >> >> know well.B These were mainly IP Services.
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> - Dec. 20, 2011-March 20, 2012
>> >> >> Stepped up my lab times to 25 hours a week.B My method was this-
>> >> >> Run
>> >> >> through
>> >> >> IPX VOL1 for the technologies I saw that I didnb t know well.B This
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> about 12 topics.B Run through IPX VOL3 Mock labs very slowly.B In
>> >> fact,
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> sometimes took 16-20 hours for a Mock lab because I was looking them
>> up
>> >> on
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> DOCCD, and playing with different options to actually break the
>> >> >> solution
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> finding a second solution as an alternative.B This was a key
>> building
>> >> >> block
>> >> >> for me.B I want through Narbikb s Adv. workbooks and Bootcamp 4.0
>> >> >> workbooks.B I especially liked Narbikb s workbooks for the reason
>> for
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> solution.B If I didnb t know something in-depth, Narbikb s
>> >> >> workbooks
>> >> >> were
>> >> >> my direct solution.B All of the vendors workbooks were still weak
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> IP
>> >> >> Services, especially EEM an OER.B I know that Narbik, and Ib m sure
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> other vendors will as well, have updates to their workbooks as this
>> has
>> >> >> been
>> >> >> mentioned time and time again.B I believe Brain with INE has
>> >> >> committed to releasing something soon.
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> - March 20-April 30, 2012
>> >> >> Kicked my
>> >> >> labbing into high gear.B My job allowed me to work from home, so I
>> was
>> >> >> averaging 30 hours a week (7 days a week) without any days off from
>> >> >> labbing.B
>> >> >> Those last 5 weeks were rough!B I was staying up late at night,
>> >> drinking
>> >> >> Monster energy drinks, and chasing them with Red Bull energy
>> >> >> drinks!B
>> >> Up
>> >> >> until midnight/1am, and getting up at 6am, taking my girls to
>> >> >> school,
>> >> >> going to
>> >> >> the gym, and then heading back to the house to lab/work.B The last
>> >> >> week
>> >> >> before my lab, I actually took a week of vacation and turned off my
>> >> email
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> didnb t answer my work phone except at breaks.
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> - May 1, 2012
>> >> >> Passed CCIE
>> >> >> R&S Lab in San Jose!B Although they say to stop labbing and relax
>> your
>> >> >> mind,
>> >> >> I don't work like that.B I labbed until midnight the night before
>> the
>> >> lab
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> my hotel, and labbed for an hour that morning.B This is partially
>> >> becuase
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> mind was conditioned to do that (lab late), and I wanted my mind
>> alert
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> fingers ready that morning for the lab.B I didn't feel it was
>> >> >> proper
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> show
>> >> >> up and not have the mentality for the wording of the lab.B *NOTE*
>> You
>> >> >> could
>> >> >> have cut the tension with a knife in the waiting area prior to the
>> lab
>> >> at
>> >> >> Cisco's San Jose's office.B I couldn't help but crack jokes!B
>> >> >> Probably
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> way of dealing with nervous situations.B Also, it took 10 hours for
>> my
>> >> >> email
>> >> >> that I passed!B AHHHHH!B Why was it that when I failed I knew in 2
>> >> >> hours?B
>> >> >> Needless to say, I got zero sleep that night!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> *My tips to success*
>> >> >> When you
>> >> >> lab up, take your time to learn a technology.B When you learn it,
>> >> >> go
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> different vendor and work their technology based labs.B Go through
>> >> them,
>> >> >> fix
>> >> >> it, and break it.B Get fancy with it and find another way to do it
>> >> >> (because
>> >> >> there is always another way and you might get a restriction that
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> throw
>> >> >> you for a loop).
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> Preferred vendors (there is no single vendor), and why-
>> >> >> Narbik-Workbooks are in different degrees of difficulty, they build
>> >> >> upon
>> >> >> each
>> >> >> other, and have a VERY detailed explaination to learn from.B After
>> >> paying
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> his bootcamp and attending, you can re-take the bootcamps if seats
>> are
>> >> >> available for free.B With the amount of information delivered, I
>> >> >> highly
>> >> >> recommend taking it at least twice!
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> IPExpert- VERY hard, right out of the
>> >> >> box!B But, their BLS has videob s that help understand how, but not
>> >> >> why.B
>> >> >> Itb s up to you to learn the technology prior to working their
>> >> >> labs.B
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> VOD is a b death by slideshowb that didnb t help me at all.B I did
>> >> >> thoroughly enjoy their video on demand.B I have a lengthy drive to
>> >> >> work
>> >> >> each
>> >> >> day, and these came in handy to some extent.B But, once I found
>> myself
>> >> >> solid
>> >> >> on a technology, and I was done with Narbikb s workbooks, this is
>> where
>> >> I
>> >> >> went.B This is for the advanced student that feels they are ready,
>> but
>> >> in
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> opinion, not a learning tool.
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> INE- Their all access pass is great, and
>> >> >> offers you discounted rates on their CCIE workbooks.B Their videob
>> >> >> s
>> >> are
>> >> >> REALLY good.B For a lot of candidates, INE is a good choice as
>> >> >> their
>> >> >> hardware
>> >> >> is 1800/2600 model routers and less of a financial impact.
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> Cisco 360- I
>> >> >> donb t care for the workbooks, but their assessment labs are good to
>> >> >> get
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> feel of the lab interface, and gives you an idea via a score of
>> >> >> where
>> >> you
>> >> >> are.B If you can score high on these labs, you will do good on the
>> >> >> labs.B
>> >> >> But, I saw technologies on the lab that I did not get tested on
>> within
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Assessment labs.
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> I hope this helps you.B Now, onto CCIE Security!B
>> >> >> Re-cabling my racks now for IPExpert and Narbik's layouts.B ;)B
>> >> >> B
>> >> >> God
>> >> >> Bless.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Jay McMickle-B CCIE #35355
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> > --
>> > *Narbik Kocharians
>> > *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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> *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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