Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?

Very good!
Thanks.

On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Nethan <nethandun_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> thanks Brian.. :)
>
> --
> Nethan
>
>
> On 4/28/2012 10:02 AM, Imran Ali wrote:
>>
>> made my day !
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Mohammad
>> Moghaddas<moghaddas.it_at_gmail.com
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>> Thanks Brian.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:48, Stephen Lynch<slynch_at_absnt.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Excellent!
>>>>
>>>> -SL
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Jay McMickle<jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Awesome! Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
>>>>> Sent from iJay
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The session will be Wednesday May 16. I'll get the sign-up link and
>>>>
>>>> details out tomorrow. I'm planning on doing about 9 or 10 hours with
>>>> the
>>>> session being recorded in our classroom studio in Bellevue, WA. If you
>>>> can't attend the live session don't worry as I'll make the recording
>>>> available for anyone to download.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
>>>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>>>> http://www.INE.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/26/2012 08:37 AM, Jay McMickle wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brian @ INE stated he would put together an OER free session. Still
>>>>
>>>> yet to be seen, but I'm sure it's to come. ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
>>>>>>> Sent from iJay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Ivan Hrvatska<ivanzghr_at_gmail.com>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just see "include me" replays here :) What about the thing where
>>>>>>>> everyone wants to be included?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Viet-Hung Ton<vton_at_integra.fr>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Plz include me too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Viet
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Mail original -----
>>>>>>>>> De: "Bruno Silva"<boss.silva_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> C: "Aamir Aziz"<aamiraz77_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Lazar Adrian"<adrianlazar_at_gmail.com>, "Brian Dennis"<
>>>>
>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com>,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>>>>>> EnvoyC): Mardi 17 Avril 2012 22:00:22
>>>>>>>>> Objet: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Brian,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like to be included as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>> Bruno
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Aamir Aziz<aamiraz77_at_gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Brian
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Plz include me also.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thx
>>>>>>>>>> Aamir
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Lazar Adrian<adrianlazar_at_gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please also include me on the PFR document distribution list.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since PfR/OER is relatively new to the lab exam it's not covered
>>>>
>>>> as much
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> as a topic like OSPF, MPLS VPNs, etc in most products. That
>>>
>>> being
>>>>
>>>> said
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> currently spend at least one full day covering it in my 10 Day
>>>
>>> R&S
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> bootcamps and I cover it in-depth as getting 5 or 6 points on it
>>>>
>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> lab
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> exam can be the difference between passing or failing. I start
>>>>
>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> basics (i.e. load balancing, PfR static& BGP route
>>>
>>> manipulation,
>>>>
>>>> etc )
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> work into the more advanced configurations (i.e. link groups,
>>>>
>>>> fast mode,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> jitter probes, delay, PBR based upon DSCP, using PfR for sink
>>>>
>>>> holing
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> traffic, etc).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To be honest there are a ton of strange, for lack of a better
>>>>
>>>> term,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> quirks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> with PfR that can cause trouble when someone is just starting
>>>
>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> learning
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> PfR. So although it may seem like a good idea for me to just
>>>>
>>>> throwing
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the labs from my bootcamp, that isn't going to be what you
>>>
>>> really
>>>>
>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> truly understand it. It would be like saying to me "Hey Brian I
>>>>
>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> learn MPLS VPNs" and I say "Here are a couple labs. Good luck!".
>>>>
>>>> Think
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> that will work? No.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is just a few example of quirks with PfR: An access-list
>>>
>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> learn list can not match IP addresses but an access-list with a
>>>>
>>>> oer-map
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> should match IP addresses. When using fast mode with a learn
>>>
>>> list
>>>>
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to use a prefix list when also matching with an access-list. Or
>>>>
>>>> how to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> configure PfR to do PBR unconditionally without any OOP
>>>>
>>>> condition, etc,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> etc, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As I mentioned there are a lot of pitfalls with learning PfR due
>>>>
>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> fact it's a newer technology and went through a lot of changes
>>>
>>> in
>>>>
>>>> IOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.4T. PfR is an awesome technology and I personally love it but
>>>>
>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> complicated to learn for anyone starting out. I would venture to
>>>>
>>>> say
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> is it one of the most complicated of any technology currently
>>>>
>>>> covered in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the lab exam. The documentation is 33% bigger than the OSPF
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's only getting larger with QoS being added and PfR
>>>
>>> domains
>>>>
>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> future
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> releases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I started a blog series on it (http://goo.gl/yH0ip) but have
>>>>
>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> decided to just write a whole document covering PfR as the topic
>>>>
>>>> is just
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> too big to cover in a few blog posts. I currently have over 100
>>>>
>>>> pages
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping to release it around the end of the month. If anyone
>>>>
>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a copy, free of charge of course, just let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly if anyone wants to come see me cover PfR in person free
>>>
>>> of
>>>>
>>>> charge
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> just contact INE sales and ask to audit one day of my bootcamp.
>>>>
>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> normally covered on the 8th day of my bootcamp. I'm in Dubai
>>>
>>> this
>>>>
>>>> week
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> covered PfR yesterday and have a private bootcamp next week but
>>>>
>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm teaching in Washington, DC and Seattle next so feel free to
>>>>
>>>> stop by.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
>>>>>>>>>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.INE.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/11/2012 02:35 AM, Ivan Hrvatska wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th
>>>
>>> edition,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I
>>>>
>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book
>>>>
>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really poor. One config example without any explanations and
>>>>
>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to
>>>>
>>>> understand the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task
>>>>
>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very
>>>>
>>>> complex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature? The book says:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is
>>>
>>> remarkably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration
>>>>
>>>> options.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the
>>>>
>>>> concepts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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