Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?

thanks Brian.. :)

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On 4/28/2012 10:02 AM, Imran Ali wrote:
> made my day !
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Mohammad Moghaddas<moghaddas.it_at_gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> Thanks Brian.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:48, Stephen Lynch<slynch_at_absnt.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> Excellent!
>>>
>>> -SL
>>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Jay McMickle<jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Awesome! Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
>>>> Sent from iJay
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The session will be Wednesday May 16.  I'll get the sign-up link and
>>> details out tomorrow.  I'm planning on doing about 9 or 10 hours with the
>>> session being recorded in our classroom studio in Bellevue, WA.  If you
>>> can't attend the live session don't worry as I'll make the recording
>>> available for anyone to download.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
>>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>>> http://www.INE.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/26/2012 08:37 AM, Jay McMickle wrote:
>>>>>> Brian @ INE stated he would put together an OER free session. Still
>>> yet to be seen, but I'm sure it's to come. ;)
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
>>>>>> Sent from iJay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Ivan Hrvatska<ivanzghr_at_gmail.com>
>>   wrote:
>>>>>>> I just see "include me" replays here :) What about  the thing where
>>>>>>> everyone wants to be included?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Viet-Hung Ton<vton_at_integra.fr>
>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Plz include me too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Viet
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Mail original -----
>>>>>>>> De: "Bruno Silva"<boss.silva_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> C: "Aamir Aziz"<aamiraz77_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Cc: "Lazar Adrian"<adrianlazar_at_gmail.com>, "Brian Dennis"<
>>> bdennis_at_ine.com>,
>>>>>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>>>>> EnvoyC): Mardi 17 Avril 2012 22:00:22
>>>>>>>> Objet: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brian,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to be included as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>> Bruno
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Aamir Aziz<aamiraz77_at_gmail.com>
>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dear Brian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Plz include me also.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thx
>>>>>>>>> Aamir
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Lazar Adrian<adrianlazar_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please also include me on the PFR document distribution list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com>
>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Since PfR/OER is relatively new to the lab exam it's not covered
>>> as much
>>>>>>>>>>> as a topic like OSPF, MPLS VPNs, etc in most products. That
>> being
>>> said
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> currently spend at least one full day covering it in my 10 Day
>> R&S
>>>>>>>>>>> bootcamps and I cover it in-depth as getting 5 or 6 points on it
>>> in the
>>>>>>>>> lab
>>>>>>>>>>> exam can be the difference between passing or failing. I start
>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>>> basics (i.e. load balancing, PfR static&   BGP route
>> manipulation,
>>> etc )
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> work into the more advanced configurations (i.e. link groups,
>>> fast mode,
>>>>>>>>>>> jitter probes, delay, PBR based upon DSCP, using PfR for sink
>>> holing
>>>>>>>>>>> traffic, etc).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To be honest there are a ton of strange, for lack of a better
>>> term,
>>>>>>>>> quirks
>>>>>>>>>>> with PfR that can cause trouble when someone is just starting
>> out
>>>>>>>>> learning
>>>>>>>>>>> PfR. So although it may seem like a good idea for me to just
>>> throwing
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> the labs from my bootcamp, that isn't going to be what you
>> really
>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> truly understand it. It would be like saying to me "Hey Brian I
>>> want to
>>>>>>>>>>> learn MPLS VPNs" and I say "Here are a couple labs. Good luck!".
>>> Think
>>>>>>>>>>> that will work? No.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is just a few example of quirks with PfR: An access-list
>> used
>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>> learn list can not match IP addresses but an access-list with a
>>> oer-map
>>>>>>>>>>> should match IP addresses. When using fast mode with a learn
>> list
>>> you
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>> to use a prefix list when also matching with an access-list. Or
>>> how to
>>>>>>>>>>> configure PfR to do PBR unconditionally without any OOP
>>> condition, etc,
>>>>>>>>>>> etc, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As I mentioned there are a lot of pitfalls with learning PfR due
>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>> fact it's a newer technology and went through a lot of changes
>> in
>>> IOS
>>>>>>>>>>> 12.4T. PfR is an awesome technology and I personally love it but
>>> it
>>>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>>>>>> complicated to learn for anyone starting out. I would venture to
>>> say
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> is it one of the most complicated of any technology currently
>>> covered in
>>>>>>>>>>> the lab exam. The documentation is 33% bigger than the OSPF
>>>>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>>>>>> and it's only getting larger with QoS being added and PfR
>> domains
>>> in
>>>>>>>>> future
>>>>>>>>>>> releases.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I started a blog series on it (http://goo.gl/yH0ip) but have
>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>> decided to just write a whole document covering PfR as the topic
>>> is just
>>>>>>>>>>> too big to cover in a few blog posts. I currently have over 100
>>> pages
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping to release it around the end of the month. If anyone
>>> would
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>> a copy, free of charge of course, just let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly if anyone wants to come see me cover PfR in person free
>> of
>>> charge
>>>>>>>>>>> just contact INE sales and ask to audit one day of my bootcamp.
>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>>> normally covered on the 8th day of my bootcamp. I'm in Dubai
>> this
>>> week
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> covered PfR yesterday and have a private bootcamp next week but
>>> after
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm teaching in Washington, DC and Seattle next so feel free to
>>> stop by.
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
>>>>>>>>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.INE.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/11/2012 02:35 AM, Ivan Hrvatska wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th
>> edition,
>>>>>>>>>>>> since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I
>>> must
>>>>>>>>>>>> say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book
>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> really poor. One config example without any explanations and
>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>> any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to
>>> understand the
>>>>>>>>>>>> topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task
>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very
>>> complex
>>>>>>>>>>>> feature? The book says:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is
>> remarkably
>>>>>>>>>>>> powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration
>>> options.
>>>>>>>>>>>> For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the
>>> concepts
>>>>>>>>>>>> of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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