Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?

made my day !

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Mohammad Moghaddas <moghaddas.it_at_gmail.com
> wrote:

> Thanks Brian.
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:48, Stephen Lynch <slynch_at_absnt.com> wrote:
>
> > Excellent!
> >
> > -SL
> >
> > On Apr 26, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Awesome! Thanks!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
> > > Sent from iJay
> > >
> > > On Apr 26, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> The session will be Wednesday May 16. I'll get the sign-up link and
> > details out tomorrow. I'm planning on doing about 9 or 10 hours with the
> > session being recorded in our classroom studio in Bellevue, WA. If you
> > can't attend the live session don't worry as I'll make the recording
> > available for anyone to download.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
> > >> bdennis_at_ine.com
> > >>
> > >> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > >> http://www.INE.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 04/26/2012 08:37 AM, Jay McMickle wrote:
> > >>> Brian @ INE stated he would put together an OER free session. Still
> > yet to be seen, but I'm sure it's to come. ;)
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
> > >>> Sent from iJay
> > >>>
> > >>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Ivan Hrvatska<ivanzghr_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I just see "include me" replays here :) What about the thing where
> > >>>> everyone wants to be included?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Viet-Hung Ton<vton_at_integra.fr>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi Brian,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Plz include me too.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thank you,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Viet
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ----- Mail original -----
> > >>>>> De: "Bruno Silva"<boss.silva_at_gmail.com>
> > >>>>> C: "Aamir Aziz"<aamiraz77_at_gmail.com>
> > >>>>> Cc: "Lazar Adrian"<adrianlazar_at_gmail.com>, "Brian Dennis"<
> > bdennis_at_ine.com>,
> > >>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > >>>>> EnvoyC): Mardi 17 Avril 2012 22:00:22
> > >>>>> Objet: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Brian,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I would like to be included as well.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thank you,
> > >>>>> Bruno
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Aamir Aziz<aamiraz77_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Dear Brian
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Plz include me also.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thx
> > >>>>>> Aamir
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Lazar Adrian<adrianlazar_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi Brian,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Please also include me on the PFR document distribution list.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thank you!
> > >>>>>>> Adrian
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Since PfR/OER is relatively new to the lab exam it's not covered
> > as much
> > >>>>>>>> as a topic like OSPF, MPLS VPNs, etc in most products. That
> being
> > said
> > >>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>> currently spend at least one full day covering it in my 10 Day
> R&S
> > >>>>>>>> bootcamps and I cover it in-depth as getting 5 or 6 points on it
> > in the
> > >>>>>> lab
> > >>>>>>>> exam can be the difference between passing or failing. I start
> > from the
> > >>>>>>>> basics (i.e. load balancing, PfR static& BGP route
> manipulation,
> > etc )
> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>> work into the more advanced configurations (i.e. link groups,
> > fast mode,
> > >>>>>>>> jitter probes, delay, PBR based upon DSCP, using PfR for sink
> > holing
> > >>>>>>>> traffic, etc).
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> To be honest there are a ton of strange, for lack of a better
> > term,
> > >>>>>> quirks
> > >>>>>>>> with PfR that can cause trouble when someone is just starting
> out
> > >>>>>> learning
> > >>>>>>>> PfR. So although it may seem like a good idea for me to just
> > throwing
> > >>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>> the labs from my bootcamp, that isn't going to be what you
> really
> > need
> > >>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>> truly understand it. It would be like saying to me "Hey Brian I
> > want to
> > >>>>>>>> learn MPLS VPNs" and I say "Here are a couple labs. Good luck!".
> > Think
> > >>>>>>>> that will work? No.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Here is just a few example of quirks with PfR: An access-list
> used
> > >>>>>> with a
> > >>>>>>>> learn list can not match IP addresses but an access-list with a
> > oer-map
> > >>>>>>>> should match IP addresses. When using fast mode with a learn
> list
> > you
> > >>>>>> need
> > >>>>>>>> to use a prefix list when also matching with an access-list. Or
> > how to
> > >>>>>>>> configure PfR to do PBR unconditionally without any OOP
> > condition, etc,
> > >>>>>>>> etc, etc.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> As I mentioned there are a lot of pitfalls with learning PfR due
> > to the
> > >>>>>>>> fact it's a newer technology and went through a lot of changes
> in
> > IOS
> > >>>>>>>> 12.4T. PfR is an awesome technology and I personally love it but
> > it
> > >>>>>> can be
> > >>>>>>>> complicated to learn for anyone starting out. I would venture to
> > say
> > >>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>> is it one of the most complicated of any technology currently
> > covered in
> > >>>>>>>> the lab exam. The documentation is 33% bigger than the OSPF
> > >>>>>> documentation
> > >>>>>>>> and it's only getting larger with QoS being added and PfR
> domains
> > in
> > >>>>>> future
> > >>>>>>>> releases.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I started a blog series on it (http://goo.gl/yH0ip) but have
> > since
> > >>>>>>>> decided to just write a whole document covering PfR as the topic
> > is just
> > >>>>>>>> too big to cover in a few blog posts. I currently have over 100
> > pages
> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>> I'm hoping to release it around the end of the month. If anyone
> > would
> > >>>>>> like
> > >>>>>>>> a copy, free of charge of course, just let me know.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Lastly if anyone wants to come see me cover PfR in person free
> of
> > charge
> > >>>>>>>> just contact INE sales and ask to audit one day of my bootcamp.
> > It's
> > >>>>>>>> normally covered on the 8th day of my bootcamp. I'm in Dubai
> this
> > week
> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>> covered PfR yesterday and have a private bootcamp next week but
> > after
> > >>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>> I'm teaching in Washington, DC and Seattle next so feel free to
> > stop by.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
> > >>>>>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.INE.com
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 04/11/2012 02:35 AM, Ivan Hrvatska wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th
> edition,
> > >>>>>>>>> since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I
> > must
> > >>>>>>>>> say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book
> > is
> > >>>>>>>>> really poor. One config example without any explanations and
> > without
> > >>>>>>>>> any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to
> > understand the
> > >>>>>>>>> topic.
> > >>>>>>>>> So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task
> > at
> > >>>>>>>>> exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very
> > complex
> > >>>>>>>>> feature? The book says:
> > >>>>>>>>> "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is
> remarkably
> > >>>>>>>>> powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration
> > options.
> > >>>>>>>>> For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the
> > concepts
> > >>>>>>>>> of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > >>>>>>>>>
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