Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?

Thanks Brian.

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:48, Stephen Lynch <slynch_at_absnt.com> wrote:

> Excellent!
>
> -SL
>
> On Apr 26, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Awesome! Thanks!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
> > Sent from iJay
> >
> > On Apr 26, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The session will be Wednesday May 16. I'll get the sign-up link and
> details out tomorrow. I'm planning on doing about 9 or 10 hours with the
> session being recorded in our classroom studio in Bellevue, WA. If you
> can't attend the live session don't worry as I'll make the recording
> available for anyone to download.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
> >> bdennis_at_ine.com
> >>
> >> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >> http://www.INE.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04/26/2012 08:37 AM, Jay McMickle wrote:
> >>> Brian @ INE stated he would put together an OER free session. Still
> yet to be seen, but I'm sure it's to come. ;)
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
> >>> Sent from iJay
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Ivan Hrvatska<ivanzghr_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I just see "include me" replays here :) What about the thing where
> >>>> everyone wants to be included?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Viet-Hung Ton<vton_at_integra.fr>
> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Brian,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Plz include me too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Viet
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Mail original -----
> >>>>> De: "Bruno Silva"<boss.silva_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>> C: "Aamir Aziz"<aamiraz77_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>> Cc: "Lazar Adrian"<adrianlazar_at_gmail.com>, "Brian Dennis"<
> bdennis_at_ine.com>,
> >>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>>>> EnvoyC): Mardi 17 Avril 2012 22:00:22
> >>>>> Objet: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brian,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would like to be included as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>> Bruno
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Aamir Aziz<aamiraz77_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear Brian
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Plz include me also.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thx
> >>>>>> Aamir
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Lazar Adrian<adrianlazar_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Brian,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Please also include me on the PFR document distribution list.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>>>> Adrian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Since PfR/OER is relatively new to the lab exam it's not covered
> as much
> >>>>>>>> as a topic like OSPF, MPLS VPNs, etc in most products. That being
> said
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>> currently spend at least one full day covering it in my 10 Day R&S
> >>>>>>>> bootcamps and I cover it in-depth as getting 5 or 6 points on it
> in the
> >>>>>> lab
> >>>>>>>> exam can be the difference between passing or failing. I start
> from the
> >>>>>>>> basics (i.e. load balancing, PfR static& BGP route manipulation,
> etc )
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> work into the more advanced configurations (i.e. link groups,
> fast mode,
> >>>>>>>> jitter probes, delay, PBR based upon DSCP, using PfR for sink
> holing
> >>>>>>>> traffic, etc).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To be honest there are a ton of strange, for lack of a better
> term,
> >>>>>> quirks
> >>>>>>>> with PfR that can cause trouble when someone is just starting out
> >>>>>> learning
> >>>>>>>> PfR. So although it may seem like a good idea for me to just
> throwing
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> the labs from my bootcamp, that isn't going to be what you really
> need
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> truly understand it. It would be like saying to me "Hey Brian I
> want to
> >>>>>>>> learn MPLS VPNs" and I say "Here are a couple labs. Good luck!".
> Think
> >>>>>>>> that will work? No.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Here is just a few example of quirks with PfR: An access-list used
> >>>>>> with a
> >>>>>>>> learn list can not match IP addresses but an access-list with a
> oer-map
> >>>>>>>> should match IP addresses. When using fast mode with a learn list
> you
> >>>>>> need
> >>>>>>>> to use a prefix list when also matching with an access-list. Or
> how to
> >>>>>>>> configure PfR to do PBR unconditionally without any OOP
> condition, etc,
> >>>>>>>> etc, etc.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As I mentioned there are a lot of pitfalls with learning PfR due
> to the
> >>>>>>>> fact it's a newer technology and went through a lot of changes in
> IOS
> >>>>>>>> 12.4T. PfR is an awesome technology and I personally love it but
> it
> >>>>>> can be
> >>>>>>>> complicated to learn for anyone starting out. I would venture to
> say
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> is it one of the most complicated of any technology currently
> covered in
> >>>>>>>> the lab exam. The documentation is 33% bigger than the OSPF
> >>>>>> documentation
> >>>>>>>> and it's only getting larger with QoS being added and PfR domains
> in
> >>>>>> future
> >>>>>>>> releases.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I started a blog series on it (http://goo.gl/yH0ip) but have
> since
> >>>>>>>> decided to just write a whole document covering PfR as the topic
> is just
> >>>>>>>> too big to cover in a few blog posts. I currently have over 100
> pages
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> I'm hoping to release it around the end of the month. If anyone
> would
> >>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>> a copy, free of charge of course, just let me know.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Lastly if anyone wants to come see me cover PfR in person free of
> charge
> >>>>>>>> just contact INE sales and ask to audit one day of my bootcamp.
> It's
> >>>>>>>> normally covered on the 8th day of my bootcamp. I'm in Dubai this
> week
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> covered PfR yesterday and have a private bootcamp next week but
> after
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> I'm teaching in Washington, DC and Seattle next so feel free to
> stop by.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
> >>>>>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >>>>>>>> http://www.INE.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 04/11/2012 02:35 AM, Ivan Hrvatska wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th edition,
> >>>>>>>>> since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I
> must
> >>>>>>>>> say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book
> is
> >>>>>>>>> really poor. One config example without any explanations and
> without
> >>>>>>>>> any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to
> understand the
> >>>>>>>>> topic.
> >>>>>>>>> So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task
> at
> >>>>>>>>> exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very
> complex
> >>>>>>>>> feature? The book says:
> >>>>>>>>> "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is remarkably
> >>>>>>>>> powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration
> options.
> >>>>>>>>> For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the
> concepts
> >>>>>>>>> of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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