Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?

I just see "include me" replays here :) What about the thing where
everyone wants to be included?

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Viet-Hung Ton <vton_at_integra.fr> wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> Plz include me too.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Viet
>
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "Bruno Silva" <boss.silva_at_gmail.com>
> C: "Aamir Aziz" <aamiraz77_at_gmail.com>
> Cc: "Lazar Adrian" <adrianlazar_at_gmail.com>, "Brian Dennis" <bdennis_at_ine.com>,
> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> EnvoyC): Mardi 17 Avril 2012 22:00:22
> Objet: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
>
> Brian,
>
> I would like to be included as well.
>
> Thank you,
> Bruno
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Aamir Aziz <aamiraz77_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Brian
>>
>> Plz include me also.
>>
>> Thx
>> Aamir
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Lazar Adrian <adrianlazar_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Brian,
>> >
>> > Please also include me on the PFR document distribution list.
>> >
>> > Thank you!
>> > Adrian
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Since PfR/OER is relatively new to the lab exam it's not covered as much
>> >> as a topic like OSPF, MPLS VPNs, etc in most products. That being said
>> I
>> >> currently spend at least one full day covering it in my 10 Day R&S
>> >> bootcamps and I cover it in-depth as getting 5 or 6 points on it in the
>> lab
>> >> exam can be the difference between passing or failing. I start from the
>> >> basics (i.e. load balancing, PfR static & BGP route manipulation, etc )
>> and
>> >> work into the more advanced configurations (i.e. link groups, fast mode,
>> >> jitter probes, delay, PBR based upon DSCP, using PfR for sink holing
>> >> traffic, etc).
>> >>
>> >> To be honest there are a ton of strange, for lack of a better term,
>> quirks
>> >> with PfR that can cause trouble when someone is just starting out
>> learning
>> >> PfR. So although it may seem like a good idea for me to just throwing
>> you
>> >> the labs from my bootcamp, that isn't going to be what you really need
>> to
>> >> truly understand it. It would be like saying to me "Hey Brian I want to
>> >> learn MPLS VPNs" and I say "Here are a couple labs. Good luck!". Think
>> >> that will work? No.
>> >>
>> >> Here is just a few example of quirks with PfR: An access-list used
>> with a
>> >> learn list can not match IP addresses but an access-list with a oer-map
>> >> should match IP addresses. When using fast mode with a learn list you
>> need
>> >> to use a prefix list when also matching with an access-list. Or how to
>> >> configure PfR to do PBR unconditionally without any OOP condition, etc,
>> >> etc, etc.
>> >>
>> >> As I mentioned there are a lot of pitfalls with learning PfR due to the
>> >> fact it's a newer technology and went through a lot of changes in IOS
>> >> 12.4T. PfR is an awesome technology and I personally love it but it
>> can be
>> >> complicated to learn for anyone starting out. I would venture to say
>> that
>> >> is it one of the most complicated of any technology currently covered in
>> >> the lab exam. The documentation is 33% bigger than the OSPF
>> documentation
>> >> and it's only getting larger with QoS being added and PfR domains in
>> future
>> >> releases.
>> >>
>> >> I started a blog series on it (http://goo.gl/yH0ip) but have since
>> >> decided to just write a whole document covering PfR as the topic is just
>> >> too big to cover in a few blog posts. I currently have over 100 pages
>> and
>> >> I'm hoping to release it around the end of the month. If anyone would
>> like
>> >> a copy, free of charge of course, just let me know.
>> >>
>> >> Lastly if anyone wants to come see me cover PfR in person free of charge
>> >> just contact INE sales and ask to audit one day of my bootcamp. It's
>> >> normally covered on the 8th day of my bootcamp. I'm in Dubai this week
>> and
>> >> covered PfR yesterday and have a private bootcamp next week but after
>> that
>> >> I'm teaching in Washington, DC and Seattle next so feel free to stop by.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
>> >> bdennis_at_ine.com
>> >>
>> >> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>> >> http://www.INE.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 04/11/2012 02:35 AM, Ivan Hrvatska wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th edition,
>> >>> since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I must
>> >>> say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book is
>> >>> really poor. One config example without any explanations and without
>> >>> any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to understand the
>> >>> topic.
>> >>> So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task at
>> >>> exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very complex
>> >>> feature? The book says:
>> >>> "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is remarkably
>> >>> powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration options.
>> >>> For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the concepts
>> >>> of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks.
>> >>>
>> >>>
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