Narbik,
I'm not sure have I missed something, but what happend with two or
free labs on OER topic?
Regards
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> I will give you guys a single lab or two on OER/pfr, and i hope you guys
> enjoy it. But as far as the real lab, i honestly don't think that this will
> be a major killer, if you get it, it will probably have 3 - 5 points and not
> more, and this is the reason that most of the vendors don't have a section
> on this subject.
> YES, the same for EEM.
>
> But hey......this is my opinion and i could be wrong.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:50 PM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Same is true of EEM
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 7:25 PM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you, that is very generous of you.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Narbik Kocharians
>>> <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> > I will just send the labs to you, you don't need to purchase the entire
>>> > book to see three labs.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:22 PM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Narbik,
>>> >>
>>> >> How much do you cover it? From what I have seen no vendor covers it
>>> >> well
>>> >> enough (I have not seen your material on the subject). They seem to
>>> >> just
>>> >> show you how to configure a master and some border routers, not much
>>> >> on
>>> >> using different techniques of controlling traffic, teaching the
>>> >> difference
>>> >> between active probes, passive probes. What makes traffic in/out of
>>> >> policy.
>>> >> etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> The general consensus I have seen is "It's such a broad topic we
>>> >> couldn't
>>> >> possibly teach you everything so Cisco probably wont test you very
>>> >> deep on
>>> >> it." Well I don't think Cisco agrees with that second part. To me this
>>> >> topic is the poorest covered of any on the blueprint.
>>> >>
>>> >> -Marc
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Narbik Kocharians
>>> >> <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Ivan,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The book that you are referring to was not written for the lab
>>> >>> portion of
>>> >>> the cert, it was written for the written portion of the certificate
>>> >>> and i
>>> >>> know that for sure because i was the tech editor.
>>> >>> If you need examples of OER/pfr labs you need to purchase a book from
>>> >>> one
>>> >>> of the CCIE vendors such as: NetMaster, IPexpert, Micronics (my
>>> >>> company),
>>> >>> or some others.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Ivan Hrvatska <ivanzghr_at_gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > Hi,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th edition,
>>> >>> > since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I
>>> >>> > must
>>> >>> > say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book is
>>> >>> > really poor. One config example without any explanations and
>>> >>> > without
>>> >>> > any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to understand
>>> >>> > the
>>> >>> > topic.
>>> >>> > So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task at
>>> >>> > exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very
>>> >>> > complex
>>> >>> > feature? The book says:
>>> >>> > "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is remarkably
>>> >>> > powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration
>>> >>> > options.
>>> >>> > For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the
>>> >>> > concepts
>>> >>> > of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Thanks.
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