Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?

Please include me on the training

Thx

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Ben Hughes <bhughes_at_imc.net.au> wrote:

> Awesome, thanks Brian! I'm also in agreement it would be great to have a
> more advanced class. I'd love to review the many pitfalls and quirks you
> previously mentioned. I've been trying for days to get my routers to force
> traffic based on DSCP through a particular BR to no avail. It would be
> great to cover BRs connected with a GRE tunnel etc.
>
> Looking forward to it!
>
> cheers,
> Ben.
>
> From: Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com<mailto:jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>>
> Reply-To: Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com<mailto:
> jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>>
> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:56:00 -0500
> To: marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com<mailto:marcabel_at_gmail.com>>
> Cc: Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com<mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>>, Joe Sanchez <
> marco207p_at_gmail.com<mailto:marco207p_at_gmail.com>>, "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com<mailto:
> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>>
> Subject: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
>
> Agreed. I'm in!
>
> Regards,
> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
> Sent from iJay
>
> On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:10 AM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com<mailto:
> marcabel_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> One suggestion, let's make this a semi advanced class. There are plenty of
> resources out there that show how to setup a master and borders. I think
> this group is clamoring for something a little deeper. Can we make knowing
> the basics a pre-req?
> -Marc
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com<mailto:
> bdennis_at_ine.com>> wrote:
> I would be more than happy to do an online presentation covering PfR. I'm
> flying to NYC from Dubai tonight for a private CCIE bootcamp next week and
> then I have a public bootcamp in Washington DC after that so next weekend
> I'll be available. So if you all can be flexible we can try for next
> weekend. We can use our new streaming solution so that it's all recorded
> in a format that everyone can download and view for the people who can't
> attend.
> --
> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
> bdennis_at_ine.com<mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.INE.com
> On 04/12/2012 03:35 AM, Joe Sanchez wrote:
> How about this.... Someone (expert) on the subject of OER put together a
> webex and let it roll.. I'm willing to sacrifice a Saturday and a little $
> to get it rolling.
> It seems a lot of people are lacking confidence in the OER realm,
> including me... So what do you say?
> Regards,
> Joe Sanchez
> On Apr 11, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Imran Ali<immrccie_at_gmail.com<mailto:
> immrccie_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
> Brian ,
> A blog containing the link will be appreciated by all. However if you
> want to unicast when master piece get ready , please include me in cc.
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com<mailto:
> bdennis_at_ine.com>> wrote:
> Since PfR/OER is relatively new to the lab exam it's not covered as much
> as a topic like OSPF, MPLS VPNs, etc in most products. That being said
> I
> currently spend at least one full day covering it in my 10 Day R&S
> bootcamps and I cover it in-depth as getting 5 or 6 points on it in the
> lab
> exam can be the difference between passing or failing. I start from the
> basics (i.e. load balancing, PfR static& BGP route manipulation, etc )
> and
> work into the more advanced configurations (i.e. link groups, fast mode,
> jitter probes, delay, PBR based upon DSCP, using PfR for sink holing
> traffic, etc).
> To be honest there are a ton of strange, for lack of a better term,
> quirks
> with PfR that can cause trouble when someone is just starting out
> learning
> PfR. So although it may seem like a good idea for me to just throwing
> you
> the labs from my bootcamp, that isn't going to be what you really need
> to
> truly understand it. It would be like saying to me "Hey Brian I want to
> learn MPLS VPNs" and I say "Here are a couple labs. Good luck!". Think
> that will work? No.
> Here is just a few example of quirks with PfR: An access-list used
> with a
> learn list can not match IP addresses but an access-list with a oer-map
> should match IP addresses. When using fast mode with a learn list you
> need
> to use a prefix list when also matching with an access-list. Or how to
> configure PfR to do PBR unconditionally without any OOP condition, etc,
> etc, etc.
> As I mentioned there are a lot of pitfalls with learning PfR due to the
> fact it's a newer technology and went through a lot of changes in IOS
> 12.4T. PfR is an awesome technology and I personally love it but it
> can be
> complicated to learn for anyone starting out. I would venture to say
> that
> is it one of the most complicated of any technology currently covered in
> the lab exam. The documentation is 33% bigger than the OSPF
> documentation
> and it's only getting larger with QoS being added and PfR domains in
> future
> releases.
> I started a blog series on it (http://goo.gl/yH0ip) but have since
> decided to just write a whole document covering PfR as the topic is just
> too big to cover in a few blog posts. I currently have over 100 pages
> and
> I'm hoping to release it around the end of the month. If anyone would
> like
> a copy, free of charge of course, just let me know.
> Lastly if anyone wants to come see me cover PfR in person free of charge
> just contact INE sales and ask to audit one day of my bootcamp. It's
> normally covered on the 8th day of my bootcamp. I'm in Dubai this week
> and
> covered PfR yesterday and have a private bootcamp next week but after
> that
> I'm teaching in Washington, DC and Seattle next so feel free to stop by.
> --
> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/****Voice)
> bdennis_at_ine.com<mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.INE.com
> On 04/11/2012 02:35 AM, Ivan Hrvatska wrote:
> Hi,
> I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th edition,
> since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I must
> say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book is
> really poor. One config example without any explanations and without
> any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to understand the
> topic.
> So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task at
> exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very complex
> feature? The book says:
> "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is remarkably
> powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration options.
> For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the concepts
> of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
> Thanks.
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