Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?

Naribik|Brian, - Don't forget to include GPL license with the opensource
copy of PfR release :)

Great initiation! seems like another VCE ?

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Narbik and Brain,
>
> if your great work to beat OER are made publickly available via blog post
> or ftp link will be great !
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Mohammad Khalil <eng_mssk_at_hotmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Please include me in this and i have some tips to share as well
> >
> > BR,
> > Mohaamad
> >
> > > CC: bdennis_at_ine.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > > From: marco207p_at_gmail.com
> >
> > > Subject: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
> > > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:35:06 -0500
> > > To: immrccie_at_gmail.com
> >
> > >
> > > How about this.... Someone (expert) on the subject of OER put together
> a
> > webex and let it roll.. I'm willing to sacrifice a Saturday and a little
> $
> > to get it rolling.
> > >
> > > It seems a lot of people are lacking confidence in the OER realm,
> > including me... So what do you say?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Joe Sanchez
> > >
> > > On Apr 11, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Brian ,
> > > >
> > > > A blog containing the link will be appreciated by all. However if you
> > > > want to unicast when master piece get ready , please include me in
> cc.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Since PfR/OER is relatively new to the lab exam it's not covered as
> > much
> > > >> as a topic like OSPF, MPLS VPNs, etc in most products. That being
> > said I
> > > >> currently spend at least one full day covering it in my 10 Day R&S
> > > >> bootcamps and I cover it in-depth as getting 5 or 6 points on it in
> > the lab
> > > >> exam can be the difference between passing or failing. I start from
> > the
> > > >> basics (i.e. load balancing, PfR static & BGP route manipulation,
> etc
> > ) and
> > > >> work into the more advanced configurations (i.e. link groups, fast
> > mode,
> > > >> jitter probes, delay, PBR based upon DSCP, using PfR for sink holing
> > > >> traffic, etc).
> > > >>
> > > >> To be honest there are a ton of strange, for lack of a better term,
> > quirks
> > > >> with PfR that can cause trouble when someone is just starting out
> > learning
> > > >> PfR. So although it may seem like a good idea for me to just
> throwing
> > you
> > > >> the labs from my bootcamp, that isn't going to be what you really
> > need to
> > > >> truly understand it. It would be like saying to me "Hey Brian I want
> > to
> > > >> learn MPLS VPNs" and I say "Here are a couple labs. Good luck!".
> Think
> > > >> that will work? No.
> > > >>
> > > >> Here is just a few example of quirks with PfR: An access-list used
> > with a
> > > >> learn list can not match IP addresses but an access-list with a
> > oer-map
> > > >> should match IP addresses. When using fast mode with a learn list
> you
> > need
> > > >> to use a prefix list when also matching with an access-list. Or how
> to
> > > >> configure PfR to do PBR unconditionally without any OOP condition,
> > etc,
> > > >> etc, etc.
> > > >>
> > > >> As I mentioned there are a lot of pitfalls with learning PfR due to
> > the
> > > >> fact it's a newer technology and went through a lot of changes in
> IOS
> > > >> 12.4T. PfR is an awesome technology and I personally love it but it
> > can be
> > > >> complicated to learn for anyone starting out. I would venture to say
> > that
> > > >> is it one of the most complicated of any technology currently
> covered
> > in
> > > >> the lab exam. The documentation is 33% bigger than the OSPF
> > documentation
> > > >> and it's only getting larger with QoS being added and PfR domains in
> > future
> > > >> releases.
> > > >>
> > > >> I started a blog series on it (http://goo.gl/yH0ip) but have since
> > > >> decided to just write a whole document covering PfR as the topic is
> > just
> > > >> too big to cover in a few blog posts. I currently have over 100
> pages
> > and
> > > >> I'm hoping to release it around the end of the month. If anyone
> would
> > like
> > > >> a copy, free of charge of course, just let me know.
> > > >>
> > > >> Lastly if anyone wants to come see me cover PfR in person free of
> > charge
> > > >> just contact INE sales and ask to audit one day of my bootcamp. It's
> > > >> normally covered on the 8th day of my bootcamp. I'm in Dubai this
> > week and
> > > >> covered PfR yesterday and have a private bootcamp next week but
> after
> > that
> > > >> I'm teaching in Washington, DC and Seattle next so feel free to stop
> > by.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
> > > >> bdennis_at_ine.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > >> http://www.INE.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 04/11/2012 02:35 AM, Ivan Hrvatska wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th edition,
> > > >>> since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I
> must
> > > >>> say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book is
> > > >>> really poor. One config example without any explanations and
> without
> > > >>> any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to understand
> > the
> > > >>> topic.
> > > >>> So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task at
> > > >>> exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very
> complex
> > > >>> feature? The book says:
> > > >>> "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is remarkably
> > > >>> powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration
> > options.
> > > >>> For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the
> concepts
> > > >>> of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks.
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