Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?

Narbik and Brain,

if your great work to beat OER are made publickly available via blog post
or ftp link will be great !

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Mohammad Khalil <eng_mssk_at_hotmail.com>wrote:

> Please include me in this and i have some tips to share as well
>
> BR,
> Mohaamad
>
> > CC: bdennis_at_ine.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > From: marco207p_at_gmail.com
>
> > Subject: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
> > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:35:06 -0500
> > To: immrccie_at_gmail.com
>
> >
> > How about this.... Someone (expert) on the subject of OER put together a
> webex and let it roll.. I'm willing to sacrifice a Saturday and a little $
> to get it rolling.
> >
> > It seems a lot of people are lacking confidence in the OER realm,
> including me... So what do you say?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Joe Sanchez
> >
> > On Apr 11, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Brian ,
> > >
> > > A blog containing the link will be appreciated by all. However if you
> > > want to unicast when master piece get ready , please include me in cc.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Since PfR/OER is relatively new to the lab exam it's not covered as
> much
> > >> as a topic like OSPF, MPLS VPNs, etc in most products. That being
> said I
> > >> currently spend at least one full day covering it in my 10 Day R&S
> > >> bootcamps and I cover it in-depth as getting 5 or 6 points on it in
> the lab
> > >> exam can be the difference between passing or failing. I start from
> the
> > >> basics (i.e. load balancing, PfR static & BGP route manipulation, etc
> ) and
> > >> work into the more advanced configurations (i.e. link groups, fast
> mode,
> > >> jitter probes, delay, PBR based upon DSCP, using PfR for sink holing
> > >> traffic, etc).
> > >>
> > >> To be honest there are a ton of strange, for lack of a better term,
> quirks
> > >> with PfR that can cause trouble when someone is just starting out
> learning
> > >> PfR. So although it may seem like a good idea for me to just throwing
> you
> > >> the labs from my bootcamp, that isn't going to be what you really
> need to
> > >> truly understand it. It would be like saying to me "Hey Brian I want
> to
> > >> learn MPLS VPNs" and I say "Here are a couple labs. Good luck!". Think
> > >> that will work? No.
> > >>
> > >> Here is just a few example of quirks with PfR: An access-list used
> with a
> > >> learn list can not match IP addresses but an access-list with a
> oer-map
> > >> should match IP addresses. When using fast mode with a learn list you
> need
> > >> to use a prefix list when also matching with an access-list. Or how to
> > >> configure PfR to do PBR unconditionally without any OOP condition,
> etc,
> > >> etc, etc.
> > >>
> > >> As I mentioned there are a lot of pitfalls with learning PfR due to
> the
> > >> fact it's a newer technology and went through a lot of changes in IOS
> > >> 12.4T. PfR is an awesome technology and I personally love it but it
> can be
> > >> complicated to learn for anyone starting out. I would venture to say
> that
> > >> is it one of the most complicated of any technology currently covered
> in
> > >> the lab exam. The documentation is 33% bigger than the OSPF
> documentation
> > >> and it's only getting larger with QoS being added and PfR domains in
> future
> > >> releases.
> > >>
> > >> I started a blog series on it (http://goo.gl/yH0ip) but have since
> > >> decided to just write a whole document covering PfR as the topic is
> just
> > >> too big to cover in a few blog posts. I currently have over 100 pages
> and
> > >> I'm hoping to release it around the end of the month. If anyone would
> like
> > >> a copy, free of charge of course, just let me know.
> > >>
> > >> Lastly if anyone wants to come see me cover PfR in person free of
> charge
> > >> just contact INE sales and ask to audit one day of my bootcamp. It's
> > >> normally covered on the 8th day of my bootcamp. I'm in Dubai this
> week and
> > >> covered PfR yesterday and have a private bootcamp next week but after
> that
> > >> I'm teaching in Washington, DC and Seattle next so feel free to stop
> by.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
> > >> bdennis_at_ine.com
> > >>
> > >> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > >> http://www.INE.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 04/11/2012 02:35 AM, Ivan Hrvatska wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th edition,
> > >>> since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I must
> > >>> say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book is
> > >>> really poor. One config example without any explanations and without
> > >>> any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to understand
> the
> > >>> topic.
> > >>> So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task at
> > >>> exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very complex
> > >>> feature? The book says:
> > >>> "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is remarkably
> > >>> powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration
> options.
> > >>> For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the concepts
> > >>> of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks.
> > >>>
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