Re: Slightly OT - Integrity of the CCIE candidate

I'm not African but that was not nice from Daniel.

On 3/23/12, khan.sirhan_at_gmail.com <khan.sirhan_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Please ban Daniel from this group! I can't believe we live with such
> stereotypes in this day and age.
>
> I am South African and proud to be one!
> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abiola Jewoola <biola_y2k_at_yahoo.com>
> Sender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:49:00
> To: Daniel Kutchin<daniel_at_kutchin.com>
> Reply-To: Abiola Jewoola <biola_y2k_at_yahoo.com>
> Cc: Tony Schaffran<tschaffran_at_cconlinelabs.com>;
> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>; Oluseye
> Abimbolu<seyeabimbolu_at_gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Slightly OT - Integrity of the CCIE candidate
>
> Hey Daniel
>
> Who the hell do you think you are?
>
> Tony dint say whether it was
> Africans or Nigerians that are the perpetrators.
>
> Nigerians are not fraudsters
> and i take offense with someone who tries to paint us as criminals
>
> There are
> credit cards fraud all over the world and it not limited to certain people
>
> I
> am sure Tony has benefited from Nigerian students renting racks overtime and
> other CCIE rack rental companies
>
> People shouldn't be attack other nationals
> on Group study
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Oluseye Abimbolu
> <seyeabimbolu_at_gmail.com>
> To: Daniel Kutchin <daniel_at_kutchin.com>
> Cc: Tony
> Schaffran <tschaffran_at_cconlinelabs.com>; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Sent:
> Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Slightly OT - Integrity of the
> CCIE candidate
>
> Daniel that was uncalled for.
>
> Regards,
> Oluseye
>
> On Thu, Mar
> 22, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Daniel Kutchin <daniel_at_kutchin.com> wrote:
>
>> If they are
> Africans or Nigerians, then let me know their names in order to
>> shame them.
>>
>> -
>> Daniel
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Tony
>> Schaffran
>> Sent:
> Donnerstag, 22. Mdrz 2012 19:36
>> To: Joseph L. Brunner; 'Narbik Kocharians';
> 'Manouchehr Omari'
>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: Slightly OT -
> Integrity of the CCIE candidate
>>
>> This latest incident was a paypal
> transfer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
>>
>> -----Original
> message-----
>> From: "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
>> To: Tony
> Schaffran <tschaffran_at_cconlinelabs.com>, 'Narbik Kocharians'
>>
> <narbikk_at_gmail.com>, 'Manouchehr Omari' <manouchehr1979_at_gmail.com>
>> Cc:
> "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Thu, Mar 22, 2012
> 11:01:24 PDT
>> Subject: RE: Slightly OT - Integrity of the CCIE candidate
>>
>>
> You should only accept paypal funds transfers from that region of the
>>
> world... let paypal be a proxy for your integrity...
>>
>> Most of my clients
> don't accept cc's from anywhere that doesn't have George
>> Washington, an
> English Queen, or a Teutonic Figure on the money!
>>
>> -----Original
> Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf Of
>> Tony
>> Schaffran
>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:07 AM
>> To:
> 'Narbik Kocharians'; 'Manouchehr Omari'
>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>
> Subject: RE: Slightly OT - Integrity of the CCIE candidate
>>
>> Great advise.
> Thank you.
>>
>> We are trying everything we can think of to attempt to avoid
> this, but when
>> you think you have it handled, it comes at you from a
> different angle.
>>
>>
>> Tony Schaffran
>> Sr. Network Consultant
>> CCIE #11071
>>
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
>> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>>
>> From: Narbik Kocharians
> [mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:05 AM
>> To:
> Manouchehr Omari
>> Cc: Tony Schaffran; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re:
> Slightly OT - Integrity of the CCIE candidate
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> For that
> particular region get the money a month before the date, that way
>> you will
> find out if the CC is a good one or a bad one.
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 6:57
> AM, Manouchehr Omari <
>> manouchehr1979_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> That is really
> sad... :(
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/22/12, Tony Schaffran <tschaffran_at_cconlinelabs.com>
> wrote:
>> > I would just like to get a consensus of our relatively small CCIE
>>
> community.
>> >
>> > Feel free to tell me to pack sand and suck it up, but it is
> hard to
>> believe
>> > we are the only ones experiencing this.
>> >
>> > We have
> been providing rack services for a little more than 10 years now.
>> >
>> > Up
> until this last year, we have not had to deal with one single fraud
>> case.
>>
>> Maybe just lucky, but I like to think that is what should be expected
>> > of
>> the
>> > person striving to be a CCIE.
>> >
>> > Recently, we have been hit
> with an alarming number of users paying for
>> their
>> > rack time with stolen
> credit cards.
>> >
>> > I do not want to profile, but this problem appears to be
> only coming
>> > from one region of the world.
>> >
>> > Is this the integrity of
> the future CCIE's we have to look forward to?
>> > I seriously hope not.
>> >
>>
>> What are your thoughts?
>> >
>> > You can hit me offline if you want so this
> does not start a firestorm
>> > on groupstudy. J
>> >
>> >
>> > Tony Schaffran
>>
>> Sr. Network Consultant
>> > CCIE #11071
>> > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
>> > NNCDS,
> NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>> >
>> >
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