RE: Slightly OT - Integrity of the CCIE candidate

We all know politicians are thieves and liars. :)

Tony Schaffran
Sr. Network Consultant
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Narbik Kocharians
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:54 PM
To: jesus And Pals
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Slightly OT - Integrity of the CCIE candidate

There are rotten apples every, you see doctors, politicians, etc etc etc
doing the wrong thing.

It has NOTHING to do with Africa or Nigeria, i have lots of students from
Africa and Nigeria and NOT ONCE i've had a problems with any of them. The
problems that we face is periodical, for example, all of a sudden we see 10
- 20 fraudulent charges, so all we do is cancel their LOCKLIZARD DRM
license, and we are done. That's one of the reason that i LOVE
LockLizard/DRM.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:36 PM, jesus And Pals <jesusnpals_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> There are rotten apples in all walks of life . CCIE is not a test of
> Integrity . I fail to see the point here .
> This discussion is gathering racist tones .
>
> This is good reading ..
> http://www.onlinefraudguide.com/risk-countries-fraud/
>
> If you follow it ..you will have very few people to do business with
...:-)
> all the best .
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
> <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
>
> > You should only accept paypal funds transfers from that region of the
> > world... let paypal be a proxy for your integrity...
> >
> > Most of my clients don't accept cc's from anywhere that doesn't have
> > George Washington, an English Queen, or a Teutonic Figure on the money!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Tony Schaffran
> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:07 AM
> > To: 'Narbik Kocharians'; 'Manouchehr Omari'
> > Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: Slightly OT - Integrity of the CCIE candidate
> >
> > Great advise. Thank you.
> >
> > We are trying everything we can think of to attempt to avoid this, but
> > when you think you have it handled, it comes at you from a different
> angle.
> >
> >
> > Tony Schaffran
> > Sr. Network Consultant
> > CCIE #11071
> > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> >
> > From: Narbik Kocharians [mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:05 AM
> > To: Manouchehr Omari
> > Cc: Tony Schaffran; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Slightly OT - Integrity of the CCIE candidate
> >
> > Tony,
> >
> > For that particular region get the money a month before the date, that
> way
> > you will find out if the CC is a good one or a bad one.
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Manouchehr Omari <
> > manouchehr1979_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > That is really sad... :(
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/22/12, Tony Schaffran <tschaffran_at_cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
> > > I would just like to get a consensus of our relatively small CCIE
> > community.
> > >
> > > Feel free to tell me to pack sand and suck it up, but it is hard to
> > believe
> > > we are the only ones experiencing this.
> > >
> > > We have been providing rack services for a little more than 10 years
> now.
> > >
> > > Up until this last year, we have not had to deal with one single fraud
> > case.
> > > Maybe just lucky, but I like to think that is what should be expected
> > > of
> > the
> > > person striving to be a CCIE.
> > >
> > > Recently, we have been hit with an alarming number of users paying for
> > their
> > > rack time with stolen credit cards.
> > >
> > > I do not want to profile, but this problem appears to be only coming
> > > from one region of the world.
> > >
> > > Is this the integrity of the future CCIE's we have to look forward to?
> > > I seriously hope not.
> > >
> > > What are your thoughts?
> > >
> > > You can hit me offline if you want so this does not start a firestorm
> > > on groupstudy. J
> > >
> > >
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